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  • Rand Paul

    28 45.90%
  • Hillary Clinton

    22 36.07%
  • Wasted third party vote?

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning NIMBY - I'd suggest you stick to Democrat politics. The GOP race isn't anywhere near a contest between those two candidates. Jeb Bush is the next President of the United States whether or not Hillary sticks her toe (and Bill sticks his dick) in the ring on the Democrat side.
    You may want to take some of your own advice and stick to Canadian politics. Candidate Cruz was none too statesmanlike towards Presidents Dole, McCain and Romney. Did Jeb get an invite to CPAC? I did notice Christie there. Have fun splitting OUR GOP vote .
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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Gee, how many of the six viewers that Rachel Maddow gets nightly would be voting for Rand Paul anyway - and just how many of those six would make their choice on a constitutional debate about civil rights?
    LMMFAO Have you ever heard of video recordings, they are a reality these days? The stupid things people say to denigrate Rachel Maddow are quite funny.

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    I'd vote for Paul in a heartbeat and volunteer for his campaign.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A Paul vs Hillary race could actually entice me to actively get involved in the ground game up here in NOVA.
    I'm absolutely shocked we agree

    Honestly though, I'd be very happy with this. While I don't agree 100% with Paul, IF he managed to win the ticket he'd be the first person in memory on the biggest stage that I could see myself happy with enough to actively WANT to get involved. Huntsman would've caused that for me as well, but alas that abysmal primary stategy had him going no where.

    The smears going off against Paul would definitely come in full force, but I think he's seemingly got enough "new blood" in him to embrace some of the changing realities of politics and hopefully get some people on board who know how to message and manage public perception in the 21st century to combat it. If he could leverage some of what worked with his father with the younger people in creating an '08 Obama-esque "socially trendy" feeling to his campaign, I could see him surprising some folks.

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Hillary is clearly the democrats choice,
    Monica Lewinsky, Bill's and my choice!

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Hillary is clearly the democrats choice, and Paul has the only available nod from the Republican side. Assuming they are the R and D nominees who wins your vote?
    I accept that Hillary is the likely Democratic nominee, I don't accept that for Paul. There are plenty of other contenders with ample resources and backing.

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Hillary is clearly the democrats choice, and Paul has the only available nod from the Republican side. Assuming they are the R and D nominees who wins your vote?
    Assuming they were the nominees? I'm not sure. I'm a registered Republican and I've only ever voted R on the Presidential ticket. I would have to really see what Rand Paul's foreign policy platform looks like. If it's as non-interventionist and unconventional as I fear I may be swayed into backing Hillary. More than ever we need a President who decisively backs the dominating position of the United States in the world, fortifies our alliances and commitments, and prepares the groundwork for the rest of the century. My fear is that a Paul administration would preside over a global US retreat.

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Hillary is clearly the democrats choice, and Paul has the only available nod from the Republican side. Assuming they are the R and D nominees who wins your vote?
    I hope you are correct. This would be a very interesting race and a really tough call. A little history lesson: Pretend it is November 2007. Ever heard of a guy named Barrack Hussein Obama? Most of us would have answered no. Another history lesson: Pretend it was 2003 or 2007. Did you ever suspect that Hillary Clinton was guaranteed to be the next president in 2004 or 2008 simply by asking for it? Bill Clinton was a conservative Republican's fantasy president. Hillary wouldn't be any different. Bush was at a severe handicap in 2004. The democrats picked the worse possible candidate to run against him. Hillary is severely hated by the Democratic Party. Don't be surprised if her own side screws her over again. This may sound hillarious but there are enough democrats that hate Hillary so much that they would vote for Biden.

    It is unlikely that either of these will be the frontrunner but I wouldn't be surprised if one of these people end up being the frontrunner. I will be shocked if this is how things will look in November 2016. At least one party will throw us a curve ball and somebody will come out of the blue like a certain unknown Senator from Illinois. It will be somebody that wasn't even considered in March 2014.

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Neither, and it isn't a wasted vote, it is the DNC and RNC putting up wasted candidates. So I refuse to take part in your obviously partisan poll by voting your idiotic third choice.
    Yeah the language for the third option was very biased in my opinion.

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I vote Rand, despite my illogical need to get the first female president out of the way (yes I voted for Obama because he was black, despite my political opposition)
    I suspected there were people who did that but I never heard anybody admit it.

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    Re: Hillary or Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Back in 2011 I went on record saying that Obama should be a one termer and Clinton should have been the candidate in 2012.
    The last time that happened was in 1980. Ted Kennedy ran against sitting president Jimmy Carter. Running against a seated president in your own party is a good idea if your intention is to get rid of that person at all cost.

    Many people claim that Republicans botched their chances at winning the election because of all the dirt that surfaced against Romney in the primary. Hillary was smart enough to know that if she ran in 2012 she would have lost against Obama and Obama would have lost against Romney. She's a very gifted politician. She has just been extremely unlucky.

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