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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Many bullies are actually abused physically and/or mentally and/or neglected by their parents, particularly male bullies and their fathers. And there are plenty of fathers who simply are not feared by their children. There are also plenty of children who fear their mother more than their father. The key is having involved parents who take an active role in their child's life, not being abusive or neglectful themselves, and actually listening to their children and being there for them.
    I agree with that. My point is that having a father can have a big effect, contrary to what it appeared the poster was putting forward. I speak from experience on that.

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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I agree with that. My point is that having a father can have a big effect, contrary to what it appeared the poster was putting forward. I speak from experience on that.
    Having good parents can have a big effect, not just having a "father". As I've said, many of these kids do have fathers, they just aren't worth crap.
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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Having good parents can have a big effect, not just having a "father". As I've said, many of these kids do have fathers, they just aren't worth crap.
    Everyone has a father. The question is, how many know who their father is ?

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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Having good parents can have a big effect, not just having a "father". As I've said, many of these kids do have fathers, they just aren't worth crap.
    My only problem with what you are saying is that it appears that you want to minimize the role that a good father can play. I had a very good mother as well. They both played a very good role in my development. But there were things that my father did, and the way that he did them, that only my father could do. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but it's the truth.

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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I can't prove it, but I think adolescent males are more prone to violence than females. Honestly, I'm not so sure that I would have said no if all my friends were doing it.

    BTW, I wasn't into shoplifting. I was afraid of my father.
    Of course we're more prone to violence.

    That's why we have football, cowboys and indians, BB guns, snowball fights, the high-in fastball, etc.

    If, however, your whole intention is to purposefully inflict harm on someone who doesn't know they're playing your game you're a damned psychopath.

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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Of course we're more prone to violence.

    That's why we have football, cowboys and indians, BB guns, snowball fights, the high-in fastball, etc.

    If, however, your whole intention is to purposefully inflict harm on someone who doesn't know they're playing your game you're a damned psychopath.
    I just remember, doing things I didn't like and/or didn't agree with, just to fit in. So I can't say for certain that I would not have done it.

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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I just remember, doing things I didn't like and/or didn't agree with, just to fit in. So I can't say for certain that I would not have done it.
    In general, that wasn't me. If I figured that what we were talking about doing was going to result in more than a stern warning I really wasn't going to be convinced to do it. I think that impacted a number of kids I hung out with too because when I came home from basic training and associated training I stopped into a bar we used to frequent and found that 2 guys I used to run with were dead, another was doing 5 years and the "lucky" one was in court ordered rehab.

    Don't get me wrong, I did PLENTY of stuff that would have been widely frowned upon but I had limits I was unwilling to exceed.

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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Everyone has a father. The question is, how many know who their father is ?
    Not everyone has a father who is their parent. But would it have been better if I'd've said that many of them have fathers in their lives (to some degree at least) that are still not worth crap?
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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    My only problem with what you are saying is that it appears that you want to minimize the role that a good father can play. I had a very good mother as well. They both played a very good role in my development. But there were things that my father did, and the way that he did them, that only my father could do. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but it's the truth.
    And you are trying to reduce the role of one parent to their gender, as many try to do. Parents are not defined or a necessity based on their gender, but rather what they bring to the raising of a child. I guarantee you that there is nothing that your father brought to raising you that was only because of his gender. It was because he is who he is. His gender may be part of that, but it was not a vital part of that. I turned out well, as did my siblings, and our father had very little to do with that fact, despite the fact that my parents were married and living together for all of my childhood.
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    Re: Would you have played knockout as a teenager because of peer pressure

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And you are trying to reduce the role of one parent to their gender, as many try to do. Parents are not defined or a necessity based on their gender, but rather what they bring to the raising of a child. I guarantee you that there is nothing that your father brought to raising you that was only because of his gender. It was because he is who he is. His gender may be part of that, but it was not a vital part of that. I turned out well, as did my siblings, and our father had very little to do with that fact, despite the fact that my parents were married and living together for all of my childhood.
    IMO there should be at least 2 parental figures involved in the raising of a child because you've got to sleep at some point.
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