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Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

Taking an upskirt photo should

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I voted illegal but for some reason at the last minute it did some default thing and voted other!
 
ChrisL said:
What the hell is wrong with you? I said, as you quoted, it doesn't mean ANYTHING. IOW if someone is exposed, that it doesn't really matter. Is anyone home? My God!
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The last time I quoted the "it doesn't mean ANYTHING" comment you played dumb and claimed to not know what I was talking about. Now you seem to think I'm the one with the problem for showing you that you knew exactly what I was talking about. Your emotional output and hysteria has officially red-lined.


ChrisL said:
OMG, so thick! Plain sight is plain sight genius. If you have to angle your camera in a manner to see something that your eyes couldn't see unless you stuck your head up her dress . . . Really, this isn't difficult to understand at ALL. A child could grasp this concept.
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Most things in life are not the black and white children - and apparently non-genius adults - would like them to be. That you fail to recognize this speaks for itself.


ChrisL said:
This is just so idiotic, I don't think it deserves a response. Look, go take your pictures. I hope you get kicked in the head.
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Since you have degraded to personal attacks let me point out how poor your reading comprehension seems to be. In your same post as the above line of crap and personal insult, you also quoted this from me:
MoSurveyor said:
I've never put a phone under a woman's skirt - nor do I enjoy such photo's - but I've still seen LOT'S of woman's panties in public.
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Obviously your emotional involvement has superseded any rational thought from you on this subject, if indeed there was any to start with.
 
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I wonder what the law on this is in Scotland.
 
ChrisL said:
Sorry, you have made NO points at all except to whine that it's illegal to put a camera up a woman's skirt.
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On the contrary, I have asked you repeatedly to define exactly what it is you think should be illegal, at which point you revert to personal attacks. From that reaction it's obvious you really don't have a clue what is and isn't legal or even what you want to be legal or illegal. Like others on here, you'd make a "simple" law which would then required a whole NY Phone Book full of exceptions just to keep the jails from overcrowding.

The ignorant ideas you and yours have presented in this thread remind me of the Bible Thumper's ill-conceived arguments against pornography years ago. To the Bible Thumpers: "Yes, children, there really is no difference between a painting of a woman's bare breast and a picture of a woman's bare breast. Grow up."
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I agree with this.

When my daughter was in the hospital, it was in a very bad part of downtown Kansas City Missouri. I had to take responsibility for my own safety. Park in well lit areas, got my car keys ready, ultra aware of my surroundings, etc... walked with my head up and with purpose.

Nobody is going to protect us but ourselves. We have to be an active participant.
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Must have been Truman West. When that hospital was built that was actually a pretty good area of town but that was a long, long time ago.

And, yes, you should definitely watch yourself there. Even I watch myself and I'm a stocky 6'2" and worked in construction most of my life.
 
MoSurveyor said:
On the contrary, I have asked you repeatedly to define exactly what it is you think should be illegal, at which point you revert to personal attacks. From that reaction it's obvious you really don't have a clue what is and isn't legal or even what you want to be legal or illegal. Like others on here, you'd make a "simple" law which would then required a whole NY Phone Book full of exceptions just to keep the jails from overcrowding.

The ignorant ideas you and yours have presented in this thread remind me of the Bible Thumper's ill-conceived arguments against pornography years ago. To the Bible Thumpers: "Yes, children, there really is no difference between a painting of a woman's bare breast and a picture of a woman's bare breast. Grow up."
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What are you, like 5 years old or something?

This is you isn't it:

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There are pages of posts, some include PICTURES (just for people like you), that easily and clearly define what is now illegal.

You're either being deliberately difficult, or you're just plain ignorant.

Even the word "UPSKIRT" pretty much defines the issue here. Not "across street". Not "from far away". Not "from over there".


UPSKIRT


The fact that you CHOSE to ignore all common sense and reality is not everyone elses problem, it's all on you.

Look at the poll. Over 80% of the people here agree there's something here that's easily defined as ILLEGAL.

Britney Spears getting out of a Limo, with no underwear on, in front of a few hundred paparazzi, and getting her snatch photographed isn't what this conversation is about. That's not an "upskirt" situation.

Good lord man......this is NOT that difficult.
 
MoSurveyor said:
Must have been Truman West. When that hospital was built that was actually a pretty good area of town but that was a long, long time ago.

And, yes, you should definitely watch yourself there. Even I watch myself and I'm a stocky 6'2" and worked in construction most of my life.
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Children's Mercy.
 
Dragonfly said:
What are you, like 5 years old or something?

This is you isn't it:

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There are pages of posts, some include PICTURES (just for people like you), that easily and clearly define what is now illegal.

You're either being deliberately difficult, or you're just plain ignorant.

Even the word "UPSKIRT" pretty much defines the issue here. Not "across street". Not "from far away". Not "from over there".


UPSKIRT


The fact that you CHOSE to ignore all common sense and reality is not everyone elses problem, it's all on you.

Look at the poll. Over 80% of the people here agree there's something here that's easily defined as ILLEGAL.

Britney Spears getting out of a Limo, with no underwear on, in front of a few hundred paparazzi, and getting her snatch photographed isn't what this conversation is about. That's not an "upskirt" situation.

Good lord man......this is NOT that difficult.
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I don't know where their confusion lies either. It's pretty simple to me. Other states already have these laws, and I haven't heard of any issues.
 
I am just glad I have been practicing not judging women by the clothes they may not be wearing on the Internet and porting it to real life whenever I have the presence of mind to do so.
 
Dragonfly said:
What are you, like 5 years old or something?

This is you isn't it:

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More signs of a losing argument.

:lamo :lamo :lamo


Dragonfly said:
There are pages of posts, some include PICTURES (just for people like you), that easily and clearly define what is now illegal.
You're either being deliberately difficult, or you're just plain ignorant.
Even the word "UPSKIRT" pretty much defines the issue here. Not "across street". Not "from far away". Not "from over there".
UPSKIRT
The fact that you CHOSE to ignore all common sense and reality is not everyone elses problem, it's all on you.

Britney Spears getting out of a Limo, with no underwear on, in front of a few hundred paparazzi, and getting her snatch photographed isn't what this conversation is about. That's not an "upskirt" situation.
Good lord man......this is NOT that difficult.
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Obviously it IS that difficult to pin down or you'd simply write out the answer to my questions instead of spending time posting ad hom photo's and writing this kind of tripe.


Dragonfly said:
Look at the poll. Over 80% of the people here agree ...
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I haven't looked at the results of nor voted in the poll. The appeal to popularity just doesn't wash with me - and for that matter never has. I'm well aware that half the people in the world have less than average intelligence and choose to ignore popularity as much as possible because of that. It's too bad more people don't make their own judgments instead of acting like herd animals.


Dragonfly said:
... there's something here that's easily defined as ILLEGAL.
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That's not what the poll shows at all. The length of this thread and the concerns of others besides me clearly show that this is NOT "easily defined". The extreme examples you and yours continue to use (see yours above) also tell me that you know it's not that simple or easy, either, but refuse to admit it.
 
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MoSurveyor said:
What do you mean by "exposing" and exactly what kind of "force"?
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If a woman wanted to show the world her panties, she'd go out in just panties. The presence of a skirt or dress indicates to me that she DOESNT want to show the world her undies. Ergo, going out of your way to specifically photo her undies is done without her knowledge, and therefor, her consent. When you post that image you have taken without her consent, and post it for all the world to see, you have forced her to show her undies to the world.
 
If I did not already answer the title question: Yes, it should be illegal.
 
KevinKohler said:
If a woman wanted to show the world her panties, she'd go out in just panties. The presence of a skirt or dress indicates to me that she DOESNT want to show the world her undies. Ergo, going out of your way to specifically photo her undies is done without her knowledge, and therefor, her consent. When you post that image you have taken without her consent, and post it for all the world to see, you have forced her to show her undies to the world.
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Oh, so there was a method to your madness. Lol! Thanks be to God, I thought maybe you didn't know what the word meant, or maybe you were drunk or something. :mrgreen:
 
Your Star said:
This is ridiculous. How in the hell can anyone think this should be legal?
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Welcome to the world conservatives have to deal with when confronted by Totalitarian Liberalism. It's not so great when your ox is gored.
 
KevinKohler said:
If a woman wanted to show the world her panties, she'd go out in just panties. The presence of a skirt or dress indicates to me that she DOESNT want to show the world her undies. Ergo, going out of your way to specifically photo her undies is done without her knowledge, and therefor, her consent. When you post that image you have taken without her consent, and post it for all the world to see, you have forced her to show her undies to the world.
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Funny, I've never seen a woman parade around in public with just panties on below the waist - yet I've seen who knows how many women's panties without ever bending over or taking a pic up a skirt. Panties are "in plain site" (by almost any definition of that phrase) many, many times when a women is wearing a skirt or dress, especially if it's above the knees. If you haven't seen panties, too, then ... well, let's just say you're either very unobservant or blind.
 
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leoborn said:
what a hopeless skag she is, but that's how she used to make money. Not so much anymore.
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upskirt photography should be legal for anyone in any public place if the photographs are not of minors, and are not sold to anyone. Realize that many of these upskirt photographers have extreme trouble finding sexual partners in order to satisfy their sexual needs. Any female in a dress should just forget about it and be more compassionate towards them. What? You cannot be compassionate? Let me tell you something, if male fashions change dramatically, and many men started wearing kilts, i bet that women who are haters of this upskirt photography possible legislation would suddenly change their closed minds, wouldn't they??? Sure they would.[/B]
 
bull****, man hater. just look at the commercial on tv. 95 % of them are woman based
 
Why has this thread risen from the dead?
 
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