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Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

Taking an upskirt photo should

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tecoyah said:
To me at least, the issue here has nothing at all to do with what a woman is wearing. If she decides to dress in such a way that is revealing that is her prerogative and she KNOWS what she is showing. If she decides to dress in such a way that she is comfortable but modest...she is choosing NOT to show people what is covered and to remove this choice is simply wrong.

Obviously, ANYONE slipping a camera under her skirt does so with the motive of violating her privacy and feeding a rather disgusting fetish.
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Exactly. I don't know why some people cannot understand this simple concept.
 
MoSurveyor said:
Exactly!

And, yes, as far as I know it would be legal and it's the exact point I've been trying to make for pages, now.
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Sorry, you have made NO points at all except to whine that it's illegal to put a camera up a woman's skirt.
 
ChrisL said:
Sorry, you have made NO points at all except to whine that it's illegal to put a camera up a woman's skirt.
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Actually, I'm just tired of women shirking responsibility and making excuses. When you wear something as short as those women in the pictures, it's caveat emptor. They know that the possibility exists, and they chose to perform a cost-benefit analysis that ignores the potential for the worst.

You and other women here are just against this because you want to do whatever you want without consequences. Doesn't work like that - and although I don't do this, it's nice that some guys out there are scuzzy enough to keep you all in check.
 
TurtleDude said:
Inside Edition Weekend just had a segment on this and noted the legislature made it illegal a day after the ruling.

they had a video of some scumbag doing it-its too bad the victim didn't turn around and kick the asshole in the face

really hard!
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I would've aimed lower if I was going to kick him.

Just sayin. :)
 
Gipper said:
Actually, I'm just tired of women shirking responsibility and making excuses. When you wear something as short as those women in the pictures, it's caveat emptor. They know that the possibility exists, and they chose to perform a cost-benefit analysis that ignores the potential for the worst.

You and other women here are just against this because you want to do whatever you want without consequences. Doesn't work like that - and although I don't do this, it's nice that some guys out there are scuzzy enough to keep you all in check.
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Interesting. Why shouldn't we be able to do what we want without consequences, as long as we aren't hurting anyone else?
 
ChrisL said:
Interesting. Why shouldn't we be able to do what we want without consequences, as long as we aren't hurting anyone else?
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Because "hurting someone else" is not a sole indicator of consequence.
 
Gipper said:
Because "hurting someone else" is not a sole indicator of consequence.
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What are the girls doing wrong? Wearing a short skirt? Tell me how it's wrong and deserving of consequences.
 
Gipper said:
Never said that they were doing anything wrong.
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Well, then I don't understand your "consequences" statement. You speak as if women who wear revealing clothing are "deserving" of some form of punishment. Why is that? Because they don't want strange men they don't know taking pictures of their crotch?
 
What's the difference between voluntary and involuntary?
 
ChrisL said:
Well, then I don't understand your "consequences" statement. You speak as if women who wear revealing clothing are "deserving" of some form of punishment. Why is that? Because they don't want strange men they don't know taking pictures of their crotch?
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They don't deserve it.

It's like we tell rape victims - be aware of your surroundings. The same way with clothing - if you dress in a certain way, be prepared for potential results.

They don't ask for it. They don't deserve it. It's not their fault. But they do bear some responsibility in their actions and decisions.
 
Gipper said:
They don't deserve it.

It's like we tell rape victims - be aware of your surroundings. The same way with clothing - if you dress in a certain way, be prepared for potential results.

They don't ask for it. They don't deserve it. It's not their fault. But they do bear some responsibility in their actions and decisions.
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I agree with this.

When my daughter was in the hospital, it was in a very bad part of downtown Kansas City Missouri. I had to take responsibility for my own safety. Park in well lit areas, got my car keys ready, ultra aware of my surroundings, etc... walked with my head up and with purpose.

Nobody is going to protect us but ourselves. We have to be an active participant.
 
KevinKohler said:
Is exposing a woman against her will, involuntarily, forcing her to be exposed?
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I would say yes. Key words being "against her will" "involuntarily" and "forcing."
 
KevinKohler said:
I'm asking a question.
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What's the difference between voluntary and involuntary?
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I will assume you are simply a bit limited in ability, and somewhat daft....rather than a troll.

vol·un·tar·y
/ˈvälənˌterē/

adjective: voluntary
1.
done, given, or acting of one's own free will.


in·vol·un·tar·y


/inˈvälənˌterē/

adjective: involuntary
1.
done without will or conscious control.

A quick analogy to assist your understanding:
If you went a strip club and paid a woman to let you play with her breast...she is voluntarily allowing you to do so.

If you went to a bar and grabbed a woman's breasts...she did not volunteer them for your enjoyment, and her boyfriend is free to volunteer you for hospitalization.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I agree with this.

When my daughter was in the hospital, it was in a very bad part of downtown Kansas City Missouri. I had to take responsibility for my own safety. Park in well lit areas, got my car keys ready, ultra aware of my surroundings, etc... walked with my head up and with purpose.

Nobody is going to protect us but ourselves. We have to be an active participant.
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But if you HAD been mugged - no one would have said you deserved it for being in that area.
 
ChrisL said:
I would say yes. Key words being "against her will" "involuntarily" and "forcing."
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Kinda obvious, actually.

Like asking if synonyms mean similar things. :lol:
 
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