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Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

Taking an upskirt photo should


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Massachusetts court says 'upskirt' photos are legal - CNN.com

(CNN) -- Massachusetts' highest court ruled Wednesday that it is not illegal to secretly photograph underneath a person's clothing -- a practice known as "upskirting" -- prompting one prosecutor to call for a revision of state law.

The high court ruled that the practice did not violate the law because the women who were photographed while riding Boston public transportation were not nude or partially nude.

WHAT???? How can upskirt photo taking NOT be an invasion of privacy?????
 
Dontcha know we're living in the days when anything goes? ;)
 
This is ridiculous. How in the hell can anyone think this should be legal?
 
Also, according to law, it'd be illegal if she was going commando. Hint hint, ladies.
 
People who do this are pigs, but if you're wearing undies then it's not like they're photographing anything special. You've seen one... you've seen them all.
 
No expectation of privacy in a public domain. Plus they want you to - that's why they wear skirts.

Thought blaming the victim was discredited years ago.
 
People who do this are pigs, but if you're wearing undies then it's not like they're photographing anything special. You've seen one... you've seen them all.


So a dude sticking a cell phone up under the skirt of your wife or daughter isn't doing anything that should be illegal?

There's nothing "special" to be seen up under there?

A "wedgie" can be pretty revealing.
Thongs can be pretty revealing.
Some panties are pretty sheer.

It's an invasion of privacy.
 
It's a man's world for sure......ain't it.

No, not really. It's becoming a world where essentially anything is acceptable, and no matter what you do, it will be justified and excused by someone, for some reason. It's a me me me world these days. Wanna look up my skirt? Why of course. Go ahead. It's only following your natural impulse.
If women were openly quite so brazen, and the shoe were on the other foot, would you be saying it's a women's world these days too?
 
There is no victim here, since there is no crime. Next.

Only because the legal system hasn't caught up with technology yet.

I was simply assuming you were being sarcastic.
 
So a dude sticking a cell phone up under the skirt of your wife or daughter isn't doing anything that should be illegal?

There's nothing "special" to be seen up under there?

A "wedgie" can be pretty revealing.
Thongs can be pretty revealing.
Some panties are pretty sheer.

It's an invasion of privacy.

Upskirting violates a social standard but it's hardly threatening, victimizing, or indecent if they're photographing a clothed body part. I mean, if a woman wears a tight top and you can see her nipples, and you photograph her boobs, doe she get to charge with you invasion of privacy? What about men who wear tight clothes and you can see their bulge? Just because the clothed part is underneath a skirt doesn't make it any less clothed.

Have you ever looked up in a shopping mall to the people walking on the floor above you? There's lots of skirts you could see up, if you really tried. Do those women have a right to "privacy"? You can't legally tell someone not to look.

I've been to nude beaches and there's nothing that really shocks me, which is why I guess this doesn't matter to me. If they photographed my underwear up my skirt and they actually get off on that then they're lucky to have such simple-minded pleasures because as far as I'm concerned a photo of someone's camel toe is nothing special. AFAIK it's mostly young guys in their 20s doing upskirting and it's just a stupid prank to them. Maybe if they grow up they'll some day get to see a bare vag attached to a woman who actually wants to provide it to them. For now they're stuck playing their virginal games. :shrug:
 
Only because the legal system hasn't caught up with technology yet.

I was simply assuming you were being sarcastic.

It's a pretty scuzzy thing to do, but I can understand why the ruling is what it is. Do we arrest women who take their toddlers to a public pool in revealing bathing suits?
 
This is another glaring example of our judges out of control.

Can't really agree. The law was written in such a way that this was not illegal.

Or - did you want judges making laws? I thought you were against that, but I could be wrong.
 
No, not really. It's becoming a world where essentially anything is acceptable, and no matter what you do, it will be justified and excused by someone, for some reason. It's a me me me world these days. Wanna look up my skirt? Why of course. Go ahead. It's only following your natural impulse.
If women were openly quite so brazen, and the shoe were on the other foot, would you be saying it's a women's world these days too?

What would be the female equivalent to being upskirted?

Men makes the laws. I assume it was men who decided these kinds of pictures were legal.

Would female judges make that call?
 
It's a pretty scuzzy thing to do, but I can understand why the ruling is what it is. Do we arrest women who take their toddlers to a public pool in revealing bathing suits?

Are you seriously trying to equate a swimming pool to a lady riding a subway to work, or walking up steps in a shopping mall?
 
I did, but I'm so damn rebellious, I refuse to cooperate. :lol:

Oh man, what else could I have missed? I mean, what about this indoor plumbing I keep hearing about?
 
What would be the female equivalent to being upskirted?

Men makes the laws. I assume it was men who decided these kinds of pictures were legal.

Would female judges make that call?

There really isn't an exact equivalent. My statement was more about what our standards are today, and that people have become almost desensitized to so many behaviors, that expectations are failing to help us self-regulate our behaviors.
 
Would female judges make that call?

"A female passenger on a MBTA trolley who is wearing a skirt, dress, or the like covering these parts of her body is not a person who is 'partially nude,' no matter what is or is not underneath the skirt by way of underwear or other clothing," wrote Justice Margot Botsford of the state Supreme Judicial Court.

I blame all men named Margot.
 
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