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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If you can't define behavior such that I know when I'm breaking the law then you have accomplished nothing and created no law. The same system that gives you the right to take a video of a public fight or a parent hugging a child in public also gives others the right to take a video (from behind) of a woman's ass in a bikini walking down the beach. Religious zealots will approve of one and call the other a sin but that doesn't make either of them wrong.


    No, it's not easy. I'm sure you'd like to believe that but it really isn't. What you and most others arguing your same point are trying to do is legislate morality. That almost never works.
    We can manage to have laws that say you cannot walk down the street with inadequate clothes on without difficulty. That these rules are different on the beach to the town center is also easy.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    We can manage to have laws that say you cannot walk down the street with inadequate clothes on without difficulty. That these rules are different on the beach to the town center is also easy.
    And who decides what's inadequate? People need to manage themselves. Too many people are looking to the government to protect us from ourselves.

    This entire thread is rather ridiculous.

    Personal responsibility. Ring a bell with anyone?
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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is utterly stupid beyond belief.
    I don't mind if women just show us what they are all about, even if they are not from the Show-Me State, in modern times.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    And who decides what's inadequate? People need to manage themselves. Too many people are looking to the government to protect us from ourselves.

    This entire thread is rather ridiculous.

    Personal responsibility. Ring a bell with anyone?

    It's a socially variable thing. In some settings we will collectively decide that you must wear black tie evening wear. In others topless in a tiny bikini bottom is fine in some cases naked is fine. It's a little like the laws on harassment. We all complain about unwanted cold calls on the phone. When they become harassment is the courts decision.


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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    And who decides what's inadequate? People need to manage themselves. Too many people are looking to the government to protect us from ourselves.

    This entire thread is rather ridiculous.

    Personal responsibility. Ring a bell with anyone?
    Not with the right unless it has to do with Income Transfers and the coercive use of force of a State.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Daylight in a convenience store? No.
    Never, actually. Even in the middle of the night in a dark alley. Still no responsibility.

    Way I look at it is this: If a woman dresses to show off, the rules are "look all you damn well please but don't touch unless invited to do so".

    Granted that almost means taking upskirt photos is fine, but the line is a bit blurry.

    Of course if the clothing is so short that bending over = can see underwear, that's another story entirely.
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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    And who decides what's inadequate? People need to manage themselves. Too many people are looking to the government to protect us from ourselves.

    This entire thread is rather ridiculous.

    Personal responsibility. Ring a bell with anyone?

    Okay, what personal responsibility? Is my responsibility to NOT wear the clothing I choose because some weirdo might stick a camera up my skirt? I don't see how the woman is "personally responsible" unless you are insinuating that if you wear certain articles of clothing, you are opening yourself up to men sticking cameras where they don't belong.

    Now, if a woman has a skirt on that is SO short that her bum is hanging out, then she is quite aware of that I'm sure, and therefore she is MAKING it so that her bum is in public view. This is just not the case with either a skirt or dress no matter how short as long as her coochie and bummy are not hanging out.

    I mean really, just because it is "almost" showing, does not mean others have permission to go underneath your clothing.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Never, actually. Even in the middle of the night in a dark alley. Still no responsibility.

    Way I look at it is this: If a woman dresses to show off, the rules are "look all you damn well please but don't touch unless invited to do so".

    Granted that almost means taking upskirt photos is fine, but the line is a bit blurry.

    Of course if the clothing is so short that bending over = can see underwear, that's another story entirely.
    The bottom line is this: Not all of society plays by your rules. When you operate in a society based on "should", you're leaving out various (yet obvious) elements.

    I should be able to drive a Ferrari through the east side of Detroit at night. That doesn't mean I would, or that it's advisable. Just having a 6 figure car doesn't give others permission to jack my car at gunpoint, but to ignore that it happens because "that isn't right" is deluded as all hell.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The bottom line is this: Not all of society plays by your rules. When you operate in a society based on "should", you're leaving out various (yet obvious) elements.

    I should be able to drive a Ferrari through the east side of Detroit at night. That doesn't mean I would, or that it's advisable. Just having a 6 figure car doesn't give others permission to jack my car at gunpoint, but to ignore that it happens because "that isn't right" is deluded as all hell.
    Hello? This is why we have LAWS against rape. Rape is illegal in daytime and nighttime, inside or outside.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Hello? This is why we have LAWS against rape. Rape is illegal in daytime and nighttime, inside or outside.
    Yes it is. And looking up your skirt IS NOT RAPE.

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