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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, not really. It's becoming a world where essentially anything is acceptable, and no matter what you do, it will be justified and excused by someone, for some reason. It's a me me me world these days. Wanna look up my skirt? Why of course. Go ahead. It's only following your natural impulse.
    If women were openly quite so brazen, and the shoe were on the other foot, would you be saying it's a women's world these days too?
    What would be the female equivalent to being upskirted?

    Men makes the laws. I assume it was men who decided these kinds of pictures were legal.

    Would female judges make that call?

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's a pretty scuzzy thing to do, but I can understand why the ruling is what it is. Do we arrest women who take their toddlers to a public pool in revealing bathing suits?
    Are you seriously trying to equate a swimming pool to a lady riding a subway to work, or walking up steps in a shopping mall?

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I did, but I'm so damn rebellious, I refuse to cooperate.
    Oh man, what else could I have missed? I mean, what about this indoor plumbing I keep hearing about?
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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What would be the female equivalent to being upskirted?

    Men makes the laws. I assume it was men who decided these kinds of pictures were legal.

    Would female judges make that call?
    There really isn't an exact equivalent. My statement was more about what our standards are today, and that people have become almost desensitized to so many behaviors, that expectations are failing to help us self-regulate our behaviors.
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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Would female judges make that call?
    "A female passenger on a MBTA trolley who is wearing a skirt, dress, or the like covering these parts of her body is not a person who is 'partially nude,' no matter what is or is not underneath the skirt by way of underwear or other clothing," wrote Justice Margot Botsford of the state Supreme Judicial Court.
    I blame all men named Margot.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Oh man, what else could I have missed? I mean, what about this indoor plumbing I keep hearing about?
    I think indoor plumbing only applies to women. That must be why you missed out on it
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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Upskirting violates a social standard but it's hardly threatening, victimizing, or indecent if they're photographing a clothed body part. I mean, if a woman wears a tight top and you can see her nipples, and you photograph her boobs, doe she get to charge with you invasion of privacy? What about men who wear tight clothes and you can see their bulge? Just because the clothed part is underneath a skirt doesn't make it any less clothed.

    Have you ever looked up in a shopping mall to the people walking on the floor above you? There's lots of skirts you could see up, if you really tried. Do those women have a right to "privacy"? You can't legally tell someone not to look.

    I've been to nude beaches and there's nothing that really shocks me, which is why I guess this doesn't matter to me. If they photographed my underwear up my skirt and they actually get off on that then they're lucky to have such simple-minded pleasures because as far as I'm concerned a photo of someone's camel toe is nothing special. AFAIK it's mostly young guys in their 20s doing upskirting and it's just a stupid prank to them. Maybe if they grow up they'll some day get to see a bare vag attached to a woman who actually wants to provide it to them. For now they're stuck playing their virginal games.
    Looking and taking a photo are different things.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    There really isn't an exact equivalent. My statement was more about what our standards are today, and that people have become almost desensitized to so many behaviors, that expectations are failing to help us self-regulate our behaviors.
    I don't think it's that simple. Underlying this judge's decision is a clear understanding of public vs. private. If the wind blows up a woman's skirt marilyn monroe style and some guy says, "Hey look, I can see her underwear! *snap*" Does he get charged with privacy invasion?

    If no... then it's not fair to go after people for privacy invasion even if we find their behavior creepy.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, not really. It's becoming a world where essentially anything is acceptable, and no matter what you do, it will be justified and excused by someone, for some reason. It's a me me me world these days. Wanna look up my skirt? Why of course. Go ahead. It's only following your natural impulse.
    If women were openly quite so brazen, and the shoe were on the other foot, would you be saying it's a women's world these days too?
    I suppose you all could look up some Scott's kilt!

    guys that do that photography ought to get their camera stuffed up their arse



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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    It is rude, but should only be illegal in some circumstances. There are some public places (stairs, balconies, when someone exist a low car) where anyone can see up skirts, so in those situations there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. Most publicly available up skirt pictures only show up the skirt, you can't identify the person unless they have very unique underwear, in those cases there is no harm.



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