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Thread: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    People at the beach are aware of possible gawkers and have the opportunity to dress as they feel fit. People on the subway do not give the same permissions and dress to prevent it....the issue is bypassing this by invading her privacy with purposeful intent.

    There is a reason she is not walking around in her panties.
    And yet, as it was written, the law posted by ChrisL makes no such distinction.

    That's the inherent problem with legislating. They are blanketing in nature.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    And yet, as it was written, the law posted by ChrisL makes no such distinction.

    That's the inherent problem with legislating. They are blanketing in nature.
    It is perfectly clear, when you stick a camera up a woman's dress and she isn't aware of it, that is video voyeurism.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    This thread is starting to reek of thoughtcrime. Next you women will want to arrest the foot fetish guy lurking around the Pic-way.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Stop with the beach analogy and bathing suits. JUST STOP!!!!

    That's not even close to relevant here.

    Sheeessshhhhhh ......
    It is relevant, because the law that was posted makes no distinction.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Did I suggest that you change your lifestyle somewhere?
    The only thing that makes sense in the context of the conversation, would be he considers himself a "Sicko" and thinks only 1% agree with him.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Did I suggest that you change your lifestyle somewhere?
    No, but it was implied that having naked pictures of my babies, or bath fun videos, somehow compromises their safety.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    It is relevant, because the law that was posted makes no distinction.
    As you can see by clicking and reading the link, there are MANY states with these laws in place already.

    http://www.postcrescent.com/assets/pdf/U0158239521.PDF

    Federal Law
    • Video Voyeurism Prevention Act of 2004, 18 U.S.C.A. 1801.
    • Jurisdiction limited to maritime and territorial jurisdiction, or federal property
    including but not limited to territories, federal reserves or parks, federal prisons,
    etc.
    • Prohibits the recording by any means or disseminating images of an individual’s
    “private areas” without consent under circumstances in which that individual has
    a reasonable expectation of privacy, regardless of whether the individual is in a
    private or public location.
    • Penalty of a fine and/or up to one year imprisonment.

    The following states have laws which prohibit non-consensual photographic or video
    recording of persons in a state of undress or nudity in locations where the individual
    has a reasonable expectation of privacy. These locations vary and include, but are not
    exclusive of: restrooms, changing areas, locker rooms.

    *In addition to criminalizing video voyeurism as stated above, states marked with an
    asterisk also specifically prohibit what is known as “upskirting” and “down-blousing.”
    These laws prohibit surreptitious or concealed photography and video recordings of an
    individual’s body, under or through that persons clothing, without the individual’s
    knowledge and consent regardless of whether the individual is in a private or public
    location. The additional language is part of the statute cited, unless a separate citation
    is given.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It is perfectly clear, when you stick a camera up a woman's dress and she isn't aware of it, that is video voyeurism.
    And equally clear that I could just as easily get charged with the same crime for a variety of other perfectly benign scenarios based on the definition of sexually explicit.

    There is no common since where the law is concerned, only absolutes and blanket rules.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    And equally clear that I could just as easily get charged with the same crime for a variety of other perfectly benign scenarios based on the definition of sexually explicit.

    There is no common since where the law is concerned, only absolutes and blanket rules.
    Read the law and then explain to me such a scenario please.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    The only thing that makes sense in the context of the conversation, would be he considers himself a "Sicko" and thinks only 1% agree with him.
    Care to explain your stance? How have you arrived at this conclusion, lol?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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