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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, if the person is not doing something illegal, you cannot assault them or break their property. Then YOU are breaking the law, and YOU will get in trouble. This is the problem.
    When someone violates your personal spaces, anything after that is self defense. Having a guy hold a camera between your legs is a violation of personal space.

    Simply claim he was trying to grope you. And he was, really, as far as you know.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    The problem is how would you write the law? I have a right to capture images in the public domain, and it trumps your right to not be embarrassed. But embarrassment doesn't quite cover it, does it? An up skirt shot goes a little further than simple embarrassment. But where do we draw the line between that and being taken advantage of? Without diminishing my photo journalistic rights?
    Doesn't the very phrase "upskirt" pretty much define what's being discussed here?

    This isn't that difficult is it?

    If a woman (gymnast perhaps) is wearing a skirt and decides to do a hand stand on a public street and start walking down the street on her hands, anyone taking a picture of her doing that, with her underwear exposed, isn't breaking any laws.

    If anyone sneaks up behind someone else, lowers a camera below the level of a hem line, and points camera up into the crotch area of a totally unsuspecting human being, they'd be breaking the law.


    Why is this so difficult?

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Don't you think "intent" would play a role here? Stop playing games.
    Mans that is why laws like this tend to break more than they fix.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    When someone violates your personal spaces, anything after that is self defense. Having a guy hold a camera between your legs is a violation of personal space.

    Simply claim he was trying to grope you. And he was, really, as far as you know.
    See, now you obviously think it is wrong. It should not be "legal" and women shouldn't have to resort to this to protect themselves from such a violation of their privacies.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Doesn't the very phrase "upskirt" pretty much define what's being discussed here?

    This isn't that difficult is it?

    If a woman (gymnast perhaps) is wearing a skirt and decides to do a hand stand on a public street and start walking down the street on her hands, anyone taking a picture of her doing that, with her underwear exposed, isn't breaking any laws.

    If anyone sneaks up behind someone else, lowers a camera below the level of a hem line, and points camera up into the crotch area of a totally unsuspecting human being, they'd be breaking the law.


    Why is this so difficult?
    Exactly. I don't know why this is a difficult concept for some to grasp.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Doesn't the very phrase "upskirt" pretty much define what's being discussed here?

    This isn't that difficult is it?

    If a woman (gymnast perhaps) is wearing a skirt and decides to do a hand stand on a public street and start walking down the street on her hands, anyone taking a picture of her doing that, with her underwear exposed, isn't breaking any laws.

    If anyone sneaks up behind someone else, lowers a camera below the level of a hem line, and points camera up into the crotch area of a totally unsuspecting human being, they'd be breaking the law.


    Why is this so difficult?
    I'm sorry, your honor, or officer, I was trying to take a low vantage point shot looking up at a scene, when this woman happened by, walked right into the shot.




    Simple answer?



    Prove it.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Mans that is why laws like this tend to break more than they fix.
    What? That's bull. I posted how they have it covered under law in RI.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Whitey was incredibly popular in certain areas of Boston, just as Mayor Cianci was in Providence, RI despite his status as a convicted felon. Criminals are the stars in many areas of New England... so long as they're big enough to be able to toss the money around. I meant that the politicians don't want to make them criminals because you seem to need to be some sort of criminal to get elected here in the Communistwealth. See one Kennedy, Edward for confirmation of that.
    So now it is down to Whitey's old neighborhood and where his word was literal life or death... that ain't much. like I said, you can't swing a dead cat in anyplace USofA and not hit an old myth or current criminal who was or is 'popular' in his fiefdom. Howsomever that doesn't mean the state likes the gangster...

    Laughing, see ONE? do you read what you post? One doesn't a trend make... name the state that doesn't have 'see one' and name the politician... name the party that doesn't have lawbreakers of every sort and sundry... you will never find contentment in ANY state if your threshold is 'see one'...

    As far as convincing your woman of anything, if she is the woman who toes your line of what a good wife is, then she should be halfway packed before you stop to ask which state should we move to. Sorry Dude, this just sounds like the excuses you give for not leaving the USofA.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Here is how they handle this type of thing in Rhode Island.

    The Rhode Island law includes a “clad or unclad” clause when defining sexually explicit material, meaning someone can be guilty of video voyeurism whether or not the subject was wearing underwear or not. Convicted voyeurs in Rhode Island can be sentenced to up to three years in prison and fined up to $5,000.

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    Re: Upskirt Photography - Legal or Illegal???

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    See, now you obviously think it is wrong. It should not be "legal" and women shouldn't have to resort to this to protect themselves from such a violation of their privacies.
    I do think it's wrong. I simply don't see how legislation would help, how it would be enforced, how the law would written, etc.

    Now, another state already has such a law on the books, so I'd say just copy theirs.

    But it's really a paper tiger. The very nature of this "crime" is to be unnoticed.

    I don't know. I see us trying to fix one problem, and in so doing, creating multiple others.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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