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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No. I want it to succeed. Then i want people to ditch the for profit system all together.
    The world is a horrible place when people want to profit when they provide people service. I mean gosh, actually benefiting from an exchange? How terrible.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Bingo. We told them not to do this, they refused our suggestions when offered, and were convinced that this was going to usher in some kind of nirvana. This is their bed, let them lay in it.
    And it wasn't just Republicans. The election of Scott Brown was a clear message, one that was ignored. Dems doubled down, changed the rules to get it passed. I don't really feel it's up to us to make the best of it.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    It will work...
    What we had already failed the nation miserably.

    There's nothing to go back to.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And it wasn't just Republicans. The election of Scott Brown was a clear message, one that was ignored. Dems doubled down, changed the rules to get it passed. I don't really feel it's up to us to make the best of it.
    Pretty much. All this pissing and moaning about Republicans who didn't expand Medicare? GFY's. This is your baby. We are not on the hook to fix it for you, we want this abomination gone so that we can actually reform the HC system in a way that will work.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    It will work...
    What we had already failed the nation miserably.

    There's nothing to go back to.
    Well, I'm guessing that the million or so people who lost their coverage thanks to Obamacare wish they could go back. If Obamacare was such an improvement, why the need to repeatedly (and falsely) promise that nothing has to change for you if you don't want it to?

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The world is a horrible place when people want to profit when they provide people service. I mean gosh, actually benefiting from an exchange? How terrible.
    Yea i mean these people "benefited" really well from this for profit system: New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage | Harvard Gazette
    World Health Organization’s Ranking of the World’s Health Systems | thepatientfactor.com
    New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last - Grace Rubenstein - The Atlantic


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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Oh look, that completely debunked WHO link again. It would be great if people realized that even WHO said it was trash.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I am of the opinion that republicans in congress could help make fixes in the ACA or Obamacare but they don't want to.
    You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

    Any attempt to “repair” the ObamaCare scam can only make it worse. The only genuine repair has to begin with completely repealing this entire steaming pile of solid digestive waste and starting over.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh look, that completely debunked WHO link again. It would be great if people realized that even WHO said it was trash.
    Remember when facts are presented just yell "lies!".


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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Remember when facts are presented just yell "lies!".
    First of all, you're arguing from a premise I can't even begin to care about. It has nothing to do with human rights, and as such, nothing to do with government. You might as well be trying to learn the language of squirrels right now, as it would get you the same returns as arguing from such absurd position with me. I just don't care what our ranking is in the world, nor am I going to bother to believe an organization that has already admitted to be a liar on healthcare rankings of this sort.

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