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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think this is a good example of why there can be difficulty dealing with the left (and I'm not talking about everyone on the left). Instead of dealing in the realities of problems that even Democrat politicians have acknowledged, to some, any disagreement is a character flaw or makes you sociopathic. There can be no compromise with crusaders.
    Lol do i need to bust out the "You're either with us or against us" mantra that the right crusaders were so in love with for 8 years? Any disagreement made you a sociopath etc.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Try explaining that to the brits. Oh wait, they're completely in love with their single payer
    Naturally...that's because that is the only system most of them have ever known.

    Just look at the Soviet Union after it collapsed...people panic when they suddenly don't have the government teat to suckle.


    IMO, there is no such thing as a large, peacetime, government program that is handled skillfully and efficiently...does not exist.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Lol do i need to bust out the "You're either with us or against us" mantra that the right crusaders were so in love with for 8 years? Any disagreement made you a sociopath etc.
    Have no doubt, my friend. I have yet to find anything that applies exclusively to one "side".

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    No, I don't want it to fail but I also believe there's a better answer. For now it's the best we've ever had. Hopefully, it's shortfalls will prompt people to switch to (most likely) single payer.
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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    This could be a real tuff one. Up for it or down against it.



















































































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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    No, I don't want it to fail but I also believe there's a better answer. For now it's the best we've ever had. Hopefully, it's shortfalls will prompt people to switch to (most likely) single payer.
    That would be a better choice.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    No, I don't want it to fail but I also believe there's a better answer. For now it's the best we've ever had. Hopefully, it's shortfalls will prompt people to switch to (most likely) single payer.
    I don't know. I think a good many of us are distrustful of single payer. It's why the government option had to be abandoned. It made folks extremely leary.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    I don't want the Affordable Healthcare Act to fail. I don't like big government as a Libertarian, but living in the real world, if the government as espoused by the two major parties insists on having it, the people should benefit in some way to the greatest degree possible. War is not good for people, and one party exercises a propensity for looking under every stone for a small nation to fight while spending our nation's treasure to feed the fear of the bogeyman, wasting our national treasure water in a running toilet. The other proposes a measure to provide universal healthcare, which though it isn't the best, it is a start, and was weakened by the resistance of the other side of the aisle. In short, if government wants to be big, then provide for the people. Once I heard some talking about healthcare as a "big business" that was when I knew it was time to think about providing national healthcare for all. It shouldn't be considered a business. We can do much better.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by SayMyName View Post
    I don't want the Affordable Healthcare Act to fail. I don't like big government as a Libertarian, but living in the real world, if the government as espoused by the two major parties insists on having it, the people should benefit in some way to the greatest degree possible. War is not good for people, and one party exercises a propensity for looking under every stone for a small nation to fight while spending our nation's treasure to feed the fear of the bogeyman, wasting our national treasure water in a running toilet. The other proposes a measure to provide universal healthcare, which though it isn't the best, it is a start, and was weakened by the resistance of the other side of the aisle. In short, if government wants to be big, then provide for the people. Once I heard some talking about healthcare as a "big business" that was when I knew it was time to think about providing national healthcare for all. It shouldn't be considered a business. We can do much better.
    I don't think big medicine being a business is a failure in itself and that government is rarely, as efficient as the private sector at running operations consisting of a service oriented nature. The problem with the ultra large corporations is a mentality of using a metric for measuring profit above the value of humans. Granted it can't operate without funding and needs that addressed. So they need to structure a system that ascertains both the economic feasibility and functionality, integrating the cost and payment of physicians/staff, medical supply companies, hospitals/clinics and pharmaceutical suppliers with what is a reasonable profitability for the insurance providers and cost to patients. So it's a humongous undertaking to revamp a nearly 100 year old system that has involved into the congealed mess of state, federal, medicare, medicaid, insurances and private pay.

    Ultimately, I see the ACA being molded and adjusted into something, either marginally different than it is in current form, or completely sacked for a better alternative, or possibly single payer. How well it transforms, will depend dramatically on how the parties involved work together.
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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    The US Supreme court ruled that Obamacare is a tax. A tax law that did not receive one vote in congress from the Republicans who represent nearly half of the people of this nation.... not one Republican vote.

    When Obamacare did not receive any Republican support it had already failed. When America elected this egomaniac, the entire nation failed.

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