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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You really can't have property rights without the right to control and manage that property.

    There's no doubt that Obama see's the health insurance companies as evil. He watched his mother die of cancer, while fighting insurance companies for coverage. He definitely has an axe to grind.

    But let me ask you this, in between you and your medical providers (hospitals, clinics, doctors, medicine) are insurance companies, where do you think their profits come from? Are the medical providers paying them, are you paying them, or are both? I worked in the medical profession, before anything but Medicare was substantial, and not only did doctors make higher salaries but people had better care. It's strictly money centric now, with insurance companies making profit off other peoples coverage (misery).

    Most of us end paying in our lifetime for other peoples catastrophic coverage. And if you don't die suddenly (uncommon), then you'll have to be eventually be covered yourself for those last months. Where's the money going to come from for everyone's heart disease and cancer treatments?
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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    Um...how is that relevant to what I said?
    Helping working people get insurance isn't failure. I was hoping you would clarify.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Helping working people get insurance isn't failure. I was hoping you would clarify.
    It isn't about "helping working people get insurance". It's about a power grab and controlling the economy, which isn't working out so well now is it? If you honestly believe that the ACA was about "helping working people get insurance", you aren't paying attention.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    I want every taxpayer rip off to fail.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Helping working people get insurance isn't failure. I was hoping you would clarify.
    I know this...I stated that nobody should want a piece of legislation like the ACA, which is intended to help people, to fail. I recognize that helping working people get insurance isn't failure, which is why nobody should want it to fail.
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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    I know this...I stated that nobody should want a piece of legislation like the ACA, which is intended to help people, to fail. I recognize that helping working people get insurance isn't failure, which is why nobody should want it to fail.
    And I'm telling you, as clearly as I can, that getting insurance doesn't help them fail in any way. You have set up a false premise.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And I'm telling you, as clearly as I can, that getting insurance doesn't help them fail in any way. You have set up a false premise.
    Cool, tell a strong ACA opponent this, not me.
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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    Cool, tell a strong ACA opponent this, not me.
    Ok. I misread you. My bad.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Wanting such a massive program that so many millions now depend to fail strikes me as distinctly un-american. Now, i've wanted single payer all along, not this gift to HMOs, but for obamacare to fail an awful lot of suffering will have to happen first.

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    Re: Do You Want "Obamacare" to Fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I want it to fail catastrophically (financially, not medically)...to teach people that big government NEVER works...it only makes things worse in the long run.
    Try explaining that to the brits. Oh wait, they're completely in love with their single payer

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