View Poll Results: If neither Clinton nor Christie are candidates for POTUS in '16, which party wins?

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Thread: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    If neither Christie, nor Hilary run in 2016, I would have to give the edge to the Democrats, unless they nominate Biden, in which case, The Republicans win. Personally, I like Biden, but he's not a good campaigner and the "one-liner" mentality of much of the electorate will give the GOP to much fodder to play to their advantage. If a relatively no-name Democrat runs against any of the rest of the bad GOP lot, I think the Dems win. The GOP just doesn't have anyone out there in the current field that isn't a wacko....and I think most of America recognizes that.
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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    What about a Ryan/Paul ticket vs Clinton, Biden or both?

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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    What about a Ryan/Paul ticket vs Clinton, Biden or both?
    Ryan/Paul loses big against Clinton...wins against Biden....loses against most other Democrats.
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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    First of all, I disagree with your characterization of Christie and Hillary being the best candidates. Either of them.

    Be that as it may, though, if it happens that both are out I'm sure each party will come up with another name. Who that might be, I have no idea. In regard to which party then has a better chance of winning, my answer will be the same whether the "best" candidates are running or someone else: The Democrats. They always have a better chance because they have the media in their pants, they don't hesitate to lie, spin and cheat and because this country is full of a bunch of people who respond to the mass-marketing-type of campaigns the Democrats excel at.

    It really takes some extraordinary circumstances to give the Republican a reasonable shot, but the Democrats seem to be doing their best to give it this time around. But it's still early. Ask this question again a year from now.
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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    What about a Ryan/Paul ticket vs Clinton, Biden or both?
    Why not Paul/Ryan? Give the voters a real choice for a change.
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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    A couple of years ago we were thinking 2016 would be Chris Christie vs. Hillary. However, today its looks at least plausible both Clinton and Christie might not be candidates.

    My question is if both Clinton and Christie are out, which party has the best chance at winning the White House in 2016? I know, this poll isn't going to be anywhere near accurate has party loyalists tend to throw honesty out the window with questions like this and instead use the opportunity to make their side look strongest for partisan reasons but I thought I's at least ask and see what supporting comments would be offered....all with a grain of salt, of course.
    My question is, why would you label Clinton or Christie as "best"? They are not even the "best" of those who might run. Being the most popular rarely, if ever, means someone is the "best".
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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    There must be thousands of Americans who would make better presidents than the last two we've had, or most of the possible candidates we know of now.
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    Re: Suppose the best Democrat and best Republican POTUS candidates are out..?

    not to sound too horribly offensive, but when the dust settles, the democrats have more candidates which are acceptable than the republicans. There are just too many republicans with bad baggage which will all have to fight themselves through a primary process which will increase the bad baggage they have for the general public/the independents.

    Let us be honest, the primary battle of the republicans will force every candidate to swing to the right as much as possible and they will have a real problem defeating that image at the general election.
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