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Thread: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't know why we're not talking more about the situation in Ukraine on this site.
    I don't have much to say on the topic. Sure I watch the news like anyone else but there's nothing for me to about it.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    If anyone is interested, here's a pretty good analysis of the situation.

    How Putin's Ukraine Invasion Is a Disaster for Russia | TIME.com
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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    What worries me is how few people remember how many times the USA has sent the U.S. military into countries all over this planet to protect and rescue American citizens without asking permission from anyone.


    If it's OK for the USA to do that, why isn't OK for Russia to do it?

    Is there one set of rules for the USA and another set of rules for Russia?

    If so-Fill me in, Because this is news to me.
    Last edited by shrubnose; 03-04-14 at 10:52 AM.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What worries me is how few people remember how many times the USA has sent the U.S. military into countries all over this planet to protect and rescue American citizens without asking permission from anyone.

    If it's OK for the USA to do that, why isn't OK for Russia to do it?

    Is there one set of rules for the USA and another set of rules for Russia?

    If so-Fill me in, Because this is news to me.
    No, nothing abnormal here. Countries, just as with individuals, do what they can get away with. We do so when and where we can get away with it, Russia is doing the same here. Other countries and societies have done so in the past.

    The empty high-minded rhetoric is amusing, though.
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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What worries me is how few people remember how many times the USA has sent the U.S. military into countries all over this planet to protect and rescue American citizens without asking permission from anyone.


    If it's OK for the USA to do that, why isn't OK for Russia to do it?

    Is there one set of rules for the USA and another set of rules for Russia?

    If so-Fill me in, Because this is news to me.
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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What worries me is how few people remember how many times the USA has sent the U.S. military into countries all over this planet to protect and rescue American citizens without asking permission from anyone.


    If it's OK for the USA to do that, why isn't OK for Russia to do it?

    Is there one set of rules for the USA and another set of rules for Russia?

    If so-Fill me in, Because this is news to me.
    If the United States decides to act in order to protect its citizens on foreign soil...it generally agreed upon by the world body as required or acceptable. In this case we have the opposite.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What worries me is how few people remember how many times the USA has sent the U.S. military into countries all over this planet to protect and rescue American citizens without asking permission from anyone.


    If it's OK for the USA to do that, why isn't OK for Russia to do it?

    Is there one set of rules for the USA and another set of rules for Russia?

    If so-Fill me in, Because this is news to me.
    I wasn't aware that the military was sent to other countries to rescue americans. Do you have a list of these times the military did this?
    My experience in traveling is that if you're in trouble in a foreign country, you are on your own and better have a lawyer.
    Around 2009, Israeli military boarded a ship in international waters and kidnapped a former US congresswoman and 2008 presidential candidate. They kept her and several others in prison, and where was the U.S. Military? Nowhere to be found. Obama? Raising money somewhere. She was finally released, but the military didn't rescue her.
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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    The Russians in Crimea are a minority of Ukraine. They can benefit special privileges as a minority in Ukraine. Perhaps the Russian army is there to make sure that they do.
    I'm going to invoke Poe's Law and assume that this was sarcasm. Besides, a majority of Crimeans are Russian.
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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't know why we're not talking more about the situation in Ukraine on this site.
    We have other concerns much closer to home to worry about, is why. For example:

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended - ABC News


    A central Ohio principal says she suspended a 10-year-old boy from school for three days for pretending his finger was a gun and pointing it at another student's head.The boy's father says it's the adults who are acting childish for suspending the boy from Devonshire Alternative Elementary School in Columbus last week.


    I'm with the dad on this one.
    My children are in Ohio, so between them getting suspended over something this dumb, or fretting about people on the other side of the planet whom I neither know nor whom will likely ever have any impact on my life, I care more about the former.
    Last edited by Jerry; 03-04-14 at 11:24 PM.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    If the United States decides to act in order to protect its citizens on foreign soil...it generally agreed upon by the world body as required or acceptable. In this case we have the opposite.
    Well...there's a difference of opinion about the pretext of the U.S. marching into Iraq. I think most (a majority) see Bush's claims a lie. What makes this different is that Putin isn't lying about why he's doing what he's gonna do in Ukraine. Nobody will stop him. He knows it.

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