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Thread: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Russia may occupy other Russian-speaking parts of the Ukraine. Who is going to stop them?
    My argument is that would escalate things to an extremely dangerous level because I think it would go kinetic at that point between Ukraine and Russia. Right now I think Ukraine is in containment mode, fully realizing they've lost Crimea. The mobilization is intended, I think, to discourage further annexations in the east and south.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    If Putin succeeds without any trouble at all, it will just increase the chances he does it again and again and again..... See my above post do you really think Putin will accept the Crimea alone without any land link to the rest of Russia?
    That is where his military assets are, so I think it is feasible that he stop at that. Is it more likely than not? Can't say that I know the answer to that question.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Time, experience, fatigue.
    I'm sure Putin is banking on all three.
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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I'm sure Putin is banking on all three.
    I would think so. He probably knows more about the general views of our population and has reviewed the polls more than anyone... well... maybe China and Iran do too. He's a worthy adversary not to be underestimated by any means.
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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by sbu View Post
    my argument is that would escalate things to an extremely dangerous level because i think it would go kinetic at that point between ukraine and russia. Right now i think ukraine is in containment mode, fully realizing they've lost crimea. The mobilization is intended,
    i think, to discourage further annexations in the east and south.



    Right.

    But it's not going to stop Russia from doing whatever it wants to do.


    This will all be very clear in the near future.


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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Russia already took Crimea which is a part of Ukraine. Ukraine's integrity has been broken and ensurers that it would not come to this were USA, UK, and Russia in a treaty to lay of atomic bombs.

    So to answer your question: This already is war. It also challenges the ensurers of that treaty. Should they back down it would go down history that there can be no gain in treaties with UK and USA for future countries.

    Hopefully some start crunching some teeth and and push Putin back to your "cowardness." If nothing gets done it would appear that we are cowards instead.
    Putting took nothing and those troops can leave as quickly as they came in.
    You sound like GW Bush. Saying "bring it on" is not brave it is stupid. Thankfully we don't have a dunce in the Whitehouse anymore.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Nor was Iraq. What's changed?
    The opponent. Nobody with a brain takes war with Russia lightly.

    I would say at this point, though, a proxy war is a 50/50 chance of occurring.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Read OP.
    Yeah, umm...

    I know what's going on in Ukraine. Don't pretend the OP is something original, factual, sourced or shocking. Really, the demands for extreme intervention are so stupid as to discredit legitimate calls to war. It belittles the lives lost in Syria and the horrible things that occurred.

    I find this call to war undermining.



    I'd say there's about a 15% chance that this situation causes World War 3. It's literally that serious.
    Childish nonsense.


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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yeah, umm...

    I know what's going on in Ukraine. Don't pretend the OP is something original, factual, sourced or shocking. Really, the demands for extreme intervention are so stupid as to discredit legitimate calls to war. It belittles the lives lost in Syria and the horrible things that occurred.

    I find this call to war undermining.





    Childish nonsense.




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    Ukraine has nothing to do with Syria. Stop trying to thread hijack.

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    Re: Does the situation in Ukraine worry you?

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    That is where his military assets are, so I think it is feasible that he stop at that. Is it more likely than not? Can't say that I know the answer to that question.
    You really think a megalomaniac like Putin will stop at the Crimea and not demand a land bridge to it?
    Ok well maybe you are right
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