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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    This passage spoke to me.

    According to research on education, using tests to structure schooling is a mistake. Students lose their innate inquisitiveness and imagination, and become insecure and amoral in the pursuit of high scores.
    This is actually what Common Core is doing. Teaching kids how to test well, but not actually learn.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    The chief new feature I see in common-core is making the students 'explain' how the they got the answer.
    It is frightening to read some of what they write in this infant stage.

    As a tutor of the ACT, a huge feature for me is to use the 'written explanations' given by companies for the answers.
    This is my version of reverse engineering in education .
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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    This passage spoke to me.
    Also, to me. No one can deny at one time, creativity was seen as a good thing. Today in education- not so much. It's about standardized kids.

    I won't even comment on standardized testing since this is the month we must stop all lessons and focus on test taking skills. No one wants to read my two page rant

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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Systematically, it really depends. It is transparent enough to have people within higher levels of administration to comment that they "need" more "men" teaching certain subjects at certain grade levels. For instance, I had been suggested to change my educational direction numerous times because I am a male, and a former special education student myself. Frequently, however, the nature of my gender identification was more discussed than my status as a former consumer. In teacher's colleges, it's a bit obvious (to put it incredibly mildly) how the sex divide begins to reflect how these future candidates are "trained" in the colleges (not necessarily in the field itself, mind you). With elementary education, it would not be uncommon for candidates to be mostly female, and for candidates who were male, it would make them stand out. Even where you saw more men in the upper grade levels, you may be able to discern cultural differences all the same. It was also fairly rare to see a man move to teaching anything other than science or social studies (and with the latter, how often are they moving to be physical education and/or coaches was rather obvious).

    During education, you have to say it depends. Sometimes it may be obvious, most or many other times it will not. I will not bother to comment on how it translates to instruction in most classrooms at most grade levels. That being said, I think it is important to consider the population that are being trained for the profession, what grade level they are being trained for, and what subjects.
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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    I strongly encourage the use of answer keys that give you the written explanations of answers.
    Graphs, Charts, and Tables work great in Science and Math.
    Also, testing at local community colleges as well as 4-year universities begins their junior year into their senior year.
    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Also, to me. No one can deny at one time, creativity was seen as a good thing. Today in education- not so much. It's about standardized kids.

    I won't even comment on standardized testing since this is the month we must stop all lessons and focus on test taking skills. No one wants to read my two page rant
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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Lori Day: Why Boys Are Failing in an Educational System Stacked Against Them


    So I ask:

    1) Should we segregate boys and girls into different schools, or at least separate classrooms?

    2) Should boys start school at an older age than girls? If girls start first grade at 6 years old - should boys be made to wait until 7?

    3) Do boys require male teachers?
    Boys used to do fine with female teachers in the past. What's changed is the mainlining of feminist theory into educational reform, combined with the freebasing of asinine liberal viewpoints into that education theory.

    It's what goes on in the classrooms that is causing the problems now which were not problems before.

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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Is it possible that perhaps girls are just getting smarter? Raising the bar?
    No one is getting smarter. The metrics have changed. Girls are being rewarded for factors that are not related to content mastery, hence their grades are improving.

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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I strongly encourage the use of answer keys that give you the written explanations of answers.
    Graphs, Charts, and Tables work great in Science and Math.
    Also, testing at local community colleges as well as 4-year universities begins their junior year into their senior year.
    Thanks. I'm working with a group of children now who have been labeled learning disabled mostly because they are round pegs that don't fit into square holes. Some of their thinking is amazingly outside the box! Someday, that will be looked positively. Sadly, not now since they usually fail these canned test miserably. Simply put, their responses weren't on the rubrics.

    Off topic- Did anyone watch that 60 minute special about the ADHD and/or Dyslexic students becoming leaders and extremely successful as adults?

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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    From OP link-
    "The author’s third stop is Poland, a country that has scaled the heights of international test-score rankings in record time by following the formula common to Finland and South Korea: well-trained teachers, a rigorous curriculum and a challenging exam required of all graduating seniors.
    Why overlook the very most important common factor for all 3 countries, Finland, South Korean and Poland all have extremely high levels of population homogeneity.

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    Re: Are Public Schools In The US Biased Against Males?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    No one is getting smarter. The metrics have changed. Girls are being rewarded for factors that are not related to content mastery, hence their grades are improving.
    Well if NO ONE is getting smarter, then we are REALLY screwed. Somebody MUST be getting smarter.

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