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Is your slow American internet acceptable to you?

Is this acceptable?

  • Yeah, so what. 'Merica!

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • No, this is ridiculous

    Votes: 16 66.7%

  • I'm worthless and weak for clicking here

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • Total voters
    24
clownboy said:
Again, no they don't. If what you say were even remotely true the major internet businesses would all be serving from there instead of here. It's about data depth and simultaneous number of connections. The internet infrastructure in EU countries is no better than it is here.
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There are pockets in the United States that are faster than anywhere on earth. Hence, google fiber. But the vast, vast majority don't have access to gigabit internet. The vast majority are like my sorry ass here in Dallas, stuck with Time Warner's copper bullcrap at 15mbps max.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I'm not an expert on home heaters except to say that I know when a room is hot or cold and I know that, having lived in Sweden, they don't have any problems heating their homes.
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That was not my experience, having resided in a couple apartments, a home and visited many homes. They use crappy hot water radiators that have virtually no effect. I would sleep up against one and still needed to sleep in a jacket.

European cities are much more pleasing, European women are more beautiful and cultured, travel within the continent is more interesting, the history is more interesting, people are actually healthy and not fat car-driving slobs like here,
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Having lived in Europe for a couple years, that was not my experience.
 
Helix said:
break up the telcom and cable industries into smaller parts, and watch competition solve the problem. oh, and one other thing :
DO NOT LET THE ****ING ****ERS RE-CONSOLIDATE IN 20 DAMNED YEARS, CAUSING THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS TO HAPPEN AGAIN
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Hell yeah!
 
ecofarm said:
That was not my experience, having resided in a couple apartments, a home and visited many homes. They use crappy hot water radiators that have virtually no effect. I would sleep up against one and still needed to sleep in a jacket.
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America doesn't have poor folks? LMAO I've traveled all across this trailer park infested land, you're telling me those guys have it better than your buddies in Sweden?

No way.
 
I swear, I think only Helix understands the problem. It's not an ISP malfunction with slow downloads, it's the content providers and large carriers controlling the internet speed as a whole.
 
Helix said:
break up the telcom and cable industries into smaller parts, and watch competition solve the problem. oh, and one other thing :

DO NOT LET THE ****ING ****ERS RE-CONSOLIDATE IN 20 DAMNED YEARS, CAUSING THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS TO HAPPEN AGAIN
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There is no telecom competition in Europe, at least Sweden. It's state owned and one buys it or goes without.
 
ecofarm said:
Having lived in Europe for a couple years, that was not my experience.
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Then your experience disagrees with my experience. The only places in the USA worth living in are Chicago and New York City. Maybe San Francisco as well. And that's because those are our most European cities.... they're walkable, have good subway systems, have public areas like parks, etc.
 
Peter Grimm said:
America doesn't have poor folks? LMAO I've traveled all across this trailer park infested land, you're telling me those guys have it better than your buddies in Sweden?

No way.
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I was a grad student, with a nice income. I lived in the better areas of Helsingborg and Lund. The housing was circa-1950 US.
 
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I pay $60 a month and theoretically have up to 100MB down and 50 up. Don't ever see that on individual PCs - these are pretty much typical numbers.
More is always welcome but right now I have no problem streaming video to PCs or my TV, doing online backups or with online gaming.
 
ecofarm said:
I was a grad student, with a nice income. I lived in the better areas of Helsingborg and Lund. The housing was circa-1950 US.
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OK buddy, Swedish people can't heat their homes. People have to sleep in jackets.

:doh
 
Peter Grimm said:
Then your experience disagrees with my experience. The only places in the USA worth living in are Chicago and New York City. Maybe San Francisco as well. And that's because those are our most European cities.... they're walkable, have good subway systems, have public areas like parks, etc.
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This appears disconnected from reality.
 
Peter Grimm said:
OK buddy, Swedish people can't heat their homes. People have to sleep in jackets.

:doh
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I lived there from about 2000-2003, traveled Europe and saw the same.
 
Helix said:
break up the telcom and cable industries into smaller parts, and watch competition solve the problem. oh, and one other thing :

DO NOT LET THE ****ING ****ERS RE-CONSOLIDATE IN 20 DAMNED YEARS, CAUSING THE EXACT SAME PROBLEMS TO HAPPEN AGAIN
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Foolish plan that would only lead to slower connections and a doomed infrastructure. The internet requires a large seemless common/shared infrastructure. Government does not have what it takes to maintain that, they just can't pay what it takes to get the people with the expertise and it takes billions per year.

I'm all for regulating these companies in a sane fashion, but breaking them up is just plain shooting ourselves in the foot.
 
ecofarm said:
I lived there from about 2000-2003, traveled Europe and saw the same.
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I was born there, lived there for 5 years, have grandparents, aunts, uncles, many friends, cousins, etc all over Sweden and I've never had to sleep in a jacket, never noticed that there was anything different about their heaters compared to ours.

But carry on.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Then your experience disagrees with my experience. The only places in the USA worth living in are Chicago and New York City. Maybe San Francisco as well. And that's because those are our most European cities.... they're walkable, have good subway systems, have public areas like parks, etc.
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There's your problem right there - you actually like living in those ****holes called cities. I guess someone has to be good with living in the hive, just glad it's not me.
 
ecofarm said:
This appears disconnected from reality.
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I'm gonna throw Miami Beach in there as well. I lived there for a few years and enjoyed the hell out of it. So there are some pockets of America that are tolerable.

On the whole, though, Europe smokes the US as far as being a nice place to live. Ask anyone who isn't American.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I was born there, lived there for 5 years, have grandparents, aunts, uncles, many friends, cousins, etc all over Sweden and I've never had to sleep in a jacket, never noticed that there was anything different about their heaters compared to ours.

But carry on.
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What 5 years? When you were a child?

I also have relatives in Sweden. One was quitting a career in geriatric hospitals because the system was so broken, cruel and becoming worse. When it comes to inter-generational justice, Sweden is among the worst. Don't be an old person there, your life WILL suck!
 
I really do hope it gets fixed, but with nonsense like the Comcast/Time Warner merger, that could prove problematic. My internet works well though, regardless.

Wasn't till recently that I learned our internet was bottom of the barrel in the developed world. If things could change so the my torrents were faster, that'd be great.

Save us, Google, save us.

It's important to note that tiny nations and city states having quick internet is a much easier task then somewhere like the USA. Doesn't change that our internet needs help pronto.
 
clownboy said:
There's your problem right there - you actually like living in those ****holes called cities. I guess someone has to be good with living in the hive, just glad it's not me.
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Yeah because I don't like hiding from the world, I like experiencing it. I actually enjoy the company of other people. I'm not a damn hermit that spends all day with the same 3 people and 4 hours in my car by myself.
 
Van Basten said:
I really do hope it gets fixed, but with nonsense like the Comcast/Time Warner merger, that could prove problematic. My internet works well though, regardless.

Wasn't till recently that I learned our internet was bottom of the barrel in the developed world. If things could change so the my torrents were faster, that'd be great.

Save us, Google, save us.

It's important to note that tiny nations and city states having quick internet is a much easier task then somewhere like the USA. Doesn't change that our internet needs help pronto.
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You know one day Google is going to end up being just as bad as Microsoft or Time Warner. But today is not that day. I agree, I hope Google can shake things up and get us all gigabit internet.
 
Peter Grimm said:
You know one day Google is going to end up being just as bad as Microsoft or Time Warner. But today is not that day. I agree, I hope Google can shake things up and get us all gigabit internet.
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Here's to hoping!
 
ecofarm said:
What 5 years? When you were a child?

I also have relatives in Sweden. One was quitting a career in geriatric hospitals because the system was so broken, cruel and becoming worse. When it comes to inter-generational justice, Sweden is among the worst. Don't be an old person there, your life WILL suck!
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At least the healthcare is free. How many Americans have been bankrupted because they have a sick kid?
 
Peter Grimm said:
At least the healthcare is free. How many Americans have been bankrupted because they have a sick kid?
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So you think you know something about Sweden because you lived there as a child?

You think Europe is better because Euros say so?



At what point does critical thinking kick in?
 
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