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  • Is he discriminating against white power rallies?

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  • If there is discrimination, should it be legally allowed?

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Thread: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    He's more than justified in doing so.

    To think they had the audacity to ask is beyond me. White people are something else.
    Would you say the same for the Black Panthers or Jesse Jackson trying to hire a white caterer?
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A black man owns a barbeque joint and caters for events regularly; christmas parties, birthdays, weddings, etc.

    A local KKK outfit is having an annual "White Power" Rally and cookout and actually seeks to hire said black man to cater their event.

    The business owner, realizing that the event he'd be catering is a "White Power Rally", doesn't want the groups business and refuses to cater the event.

    A few questions here...

    1. Is the owner discriminating against catering "White Power" events?

    2. Is the owner discriminating against white people?

    3. If there is discrimination, is it discrimination that should be legally allowed?
    as far as i know he is legally discriminating against white power rallies

    I see nothing that is illegal by laws and rights here
    he has the right to legally discriminate in this case because

    the rally is not illegally about age, disability, origin, race/color, gender, religion or in some cases sexual orientation


    UNLESS the KKK is a recognized religion in his state, county or municipality then there could be an issue.

    would be an interesting case if they took it up but unless the KKK is a recognized religion in his municipality, county or state id see them completely losing
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A black man owns a barbeque joint and caters for events regularly; christmas parties, birthdays, weddings, etc.

    A local KKK outfit is having an annual "White Power" Rally and cookout and actually seeks to hire said black man to cater their event.

    The business owner, realizing that the event he'd be catering is a "White Power Rally", doesn't want the groups business and refuses to cater the event.

    A few questions here...

    1. Is the owner discriminating against catering "White Power" events?

    2. Is the owner discriminating against white people?
    3. If there is discrimination, is it discrimination that should be legally allowed?



    I seriously doubt that this is actually happening.

    Give us some more details, like: who, where,why, what, and how.

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    He's more than justified in doing so.

    To think they had the audacity to ask is beyond me. White people are something else.
    Then you must also agree with other types of discrimination, such as by religion, belief, or sexual orientation I assume?
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A black man owns a barbeque joint and caters for events regularly; christmas parties, birthdays, weddings, etc.

    A local KKK outfit is having an annual "White Power" Rally and cookout and actually seeks to hire said black man to cater their event.

    The business owner, realizing that the event he'd be catering is a "White Power Rally", doesn't want the groups business and refuses to cater the event.

    A few questions here...

    1. Is the owner discriminating against catering "White Power" events?

    2. Is the owner discriminating against white people?

    3. If there is discrimination, is it discrimination that should be legally allowed?
    There is NO WAY they would ask a barbeque joint they know is owned by a black To cater their event in the first place. White power people are well known for being repulsed by black people handling their food. Are you telling me these people wouldn't rather throw a few steaks on the grill themselves.

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    The catering choice kind of defeats the purpose of the rally, right?


    I don't think anyone discriminates by denying services to a known hate/terrorist (even if it's not recognized as such) group.
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    This poses an interesting point. While there is clearly "discrimination" involved it is not racial but idealogical. Perhaps the BBQ man and the baker (which refused to make a "gay wedding" cake) can convince a thinking judge that the gov't mandated support for a political idea/cause is, in fact, violating protected speech. The flip side is that allowing a judge to decide such cases, based on the "protected class" nonsense, means that the GLBT folks may then receive different "just us" than the KKK folks.
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A black man owns a barbeque joint and caters for events regularly; christmas parties, birthdays, weddings, etc.

    A local KKK outfit is having an annual "White Power" Rally and cookout and actually seeks to hire said black man to cater their event.

    The business owner, realizing that the event he'd be catering is a "White Power Rally", doesn't want the groups business and refuses to cater the event.

    A few questions here...

    1. Is the owner discriminating against catering "White Power" events?

    2. Is the owner discriminating against white people?

    3. If there is discrimination, is it discrimination that should be legally allowed?
    It's discrimination, and yes to number 3. The owner HAPPENS to be discriminating against white people, but not BECAUSE they are white, but for other reasons. There is a fine line. Just like bars and restaurants can refuse service to patrons who are getting rowdy, but they can't refuse service simply due to another's skin color or gender.
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    He's more than justified in doing so.

    To think they had the audacity to ask is beyond me. White people are something else.
    Really? Suppose it was a white caterer and they refused to serve a Jesse Jackson (or Al Sharpton) rally based on the "political message"?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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