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2. Probably no.
3. Ah, here's where it gets interesting. The PC crowd will scream YES because it is a type of discrimination they favor, because the subjects are the epitome of all they hate.
Others will argue that given the bakery/SS-wedding ruling, that the caterer has to serve the White Power people for the same reasons.
This will be questioned on the basis of homosexuals being a protected class on the assumption they can't help being what they are... while the white power group chose to be what they are. This is debatable as a causal agent for homosexuality has yet to be proven, but most refuse to accept that fact and operate on the popular "inborn" assumption. Insert shrug here... moot point and one I don't really want to argue for the Nth time.
It is hard to say for sure how this would play out under current law.
One thing is this: is the White Power group simply a political group, or is a particular religion like Christian Israel/Christian Identity? If the latter, they can claim they are being discriminated against religiously... and that claim could possibly stick.
Leaving aside the legality question, the question of where is Right and Wrong in this (even if right/wrong disagrees with law)... well that's complicated too.
Personally, I support the black caterer's right to refuse to cater a White Power party, and I also support the baker's right to decline to participate/supply a SS wedding for religious reasons... because otherwise we'd be forcing by law someone to participate/support something they find abhorrent.
Somebody else can bake your cake or cook your BBQ. Somebody willing.
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Yes, he is discriminating and yes I do believe he should be allowed to do so. Forced servitude is wrong, and it should be within his rights to make a conscientious decision not to use his services to go towards or benefit an event that they feel is wrong. People should have the right to conscientious objection and not be forced to put their personal services towards events that they feel are wrong. It's discrimination, but it should be legal and it isn't necessarily "wrong."
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Please try to understand Public Accommodation laws before posting, failure to do so makes you look silly.
Public Accommodation laws require that the goods and services provided by a business cannot be refused based on race, religion, sex, religion, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, veterans status, national origin, ethnicity, etc. (specifics vary by state). The law does not require that goods and services not normally provided must start to be provided just because a customer asks for something. Using your STUPID freaking example, if the Muslim Caterer business model/menu is that they only provide Halal foods, then that is all they are required to sell. If the Muslim caterer is not devoute to his/her faith and routinely provides pork products on their menu, then they cannot refuse to cater an event where a customer requests pork items because the customer is Jewish.
I hope that helps you understand the difference and how silly the Muslim/Pork meme truly is.
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It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
But as long as it is just the food, he does not have the right to refuse their business IMHO. I cannot say anything else because that would make me a hypocrite because in the discussion about the gay discriminating I said that the bakery should sell them the cake or be guilty of discrimination. And because I am not a hypocrite the black caterer has to adhere to the same principles.
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a personal one?
not a legal one or one based on rights that i know of
one is illegal discrimaintion one is not
the baker broke the law
unless like i said in my post the KKK is a recognized religion in that state, county or municipality what law should the caterer be breaking?
do you think the caterer or breaking the law or you just dont like it personally?
2) No, the owner is only refusing to serve the KKK
3) This type of discrimination should not be illegal, as it the manís choice as to who he caters.
The owner likely refused the request for several reasons, which are as follows:
A) To avoid confrontation, which would likely occur at a KKK rally.
B) For personal safety, as some KKK groups can become quite violent towards blacks.
C) The owner may just not support the values of the KKK and chose not to go so that he could not become a target of hate.
Unless other wise sited, Everything that appears in my posts are personal thoughts on the subject.