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  • Is he discriminating against white power rallies?

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  • Is he discriminating against white people?

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  • If there is discrimination, should it be legally allowed?

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Thread: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I never said it did. Either you're unable or unwilling to read what's typed. Bless your heart.
    but you did.

    I said that the law will not force business to refuse service to gays. and you replied, "you must not have read the law". This implies that you think the law does force businesses to discriminate.

    seems that you are the one unable or unwilling to read what is typed. keep your blessing to yourself, you need it.

    let's review:

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    It's not like any of these laws are forcing businesses to not serve gays.
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    Well then you've not read the law,

    see, you clearly implied that these laws force business to not serve gays.
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Regardless, if the end result is refusal to serve white people, or any other specific group, it is discrimination in the result of his policies and he is liable.
    Why does that matter at all given the fact that he didn't refuse them service because they were white? You're equating "any other specific group" which is ridiculously general to one of the specific ways people can discriminate which is by race; which this guy didn't do might I repeat.
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    To me the boundary is participation. If the service provided with or without product requires a business to participate in an event, then they shouldn't have to. If the service or product is acquired without participation at the actual event required, then they should not be able to refuse.
    what if it would do damage to their company image? or simply goes against their belief system? lets say a young man walked in and asked an older baker to bake a cake in the shape of a naked women. should the baker have the option of saying no? i would say that he should because it goes against his MORAL and ETHICAL code to do so. its not discrimination because he would make a cake for the boy in another shape, a normal cake for his event or what have you, but he wont make THAT cake because its immoral in his eyes.
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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    I haven't read the thread yet, so forgive duplication.

    1) Yes, it is discrimination against the event and its purpose.
    2) No, it is not discrimination against white people.
    3) Yes, it should be... and is, I believe... legal.

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Why in the hell would a black man trust his safety, his livelihood and his dignity to racist bastards with a proven history of violence and hatred against African-Americans? I would say his fears and suspicions justify his reasons for refusing. His discrimination is legal and prudent.










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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Aren't Women's Only Gyms and Women's College's equivalent to the KKK in being discriminatory? How about Black Only Colleges? Shouldn't they be shut down?

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Aren't Women's Only Gyms and Women's College's equivalent to the KKK in being discriminatory? How about Black Only Colleges? Shouldn't they be shut down?
    Give us the violent history of Women Only Gyms.










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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Someone made a good point about damage to your reputation, that of employees and even endangerment. The caterer or one of his employees years later could find photos used against him/her standing with a collection of KKKers - which would destroy any chance in most elections if any want to run for public office. There also are real potentials of being endangers in the event there is a riot or your picture is in the paper with them - and then some African-American young men see you alone for which they are certain you are with the KKK.

    I would think "this will endanger me" in a literal sense is a justifiable reason to refuse. I do think I can be required to have my picture in the newspaper and online standing with a KKKers, nor that I have to face any dangers they may face, nor risk being identified as being one of them for the known dangers and reputation damage this could cause me.

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    1. Is the owner discriminating against catering "White Power" events?
    I wouldn't call it "discrimination" but he is turning down a customer on a basis of choice because that customer's money is the same as anyone else's.

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    2. Is the owner discriminating against white people?
    No

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    3. If there is discrimination, is it discrimination that should be legally allowed?
    No, it should not be legally defined or allowed because that opens up a can of worms. The existing definitions are pretty clear in that discrimination based on race are well defined. This is not a case of racial discrimination.

    Businesses are allowed to bar customers (may take legal means to do this) who have caused problems but extending that choice to a whole racial or sexual group is not a legal act by the business owner.

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    Re: Is this unreasonable/illegal discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Really? Suppose it was a white caterer and they refused to serve a Jesse Jackson (or Al Sharpton) rally based on the "political message"?
    Well, it could be they just don't like their politics and have nothing to do with them being black.
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