View Poll Results: does fighting the ACA help republicans?

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  • Hell yeah...obamacare is stupid.

    11 50.00%
  • Hell no...obamacare makes sense

    5 22.73%
  • Who cares..it's just tyhe way it is

    4 18.18%
  • Uh...does it cme with fruitcake?

    2 9.09%
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    Re: Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    awe I have velvet cake in the fridge I have no idea what this velvet stuff is but it's soooo good

    Thanks america!
    Better watch it...we'll make you fat.
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    Re: Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
    is fruit cake good? I mean I like fruit... and I like your american cake... but mixed together seems nasty... still voted for it cause I want to try new things
    Fruit cake is pretty good if it's made right and aged in rum.
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    Re: Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Is the GOP damaging itself by endlessly fighting against the law.
    Obamacare is one of only a very few issues that the American public is on the Republican side. According to RCP 39% of Americans are for the Law, 52% are against. These percentages haven't changed much ever since the law was first passed back in 2009 when 38% were in favor and 53% against. Without the ACA, 2010 would have never happened and the Democrats would still be in power in the House. The only chance of the Republicans gaining the senate, rest solely on the abatross of the ACA.

    Now if you are asking if shutting down the government last October trying to defund the ACA, now that was stupid. Here is some history and the percentages, again thanks to RCP.

    Date…......for..against
    Nov 09….38%…53%
    May 10….40%...53%
    Nov 10….38%....54% Republicans gain 63 House seats and 6 Senate seats, Obama approval rate 45% approve 49% disapprove
    May 11….39%....52%
    Nov 11….39%....49%
    May 12….39%....49%
    Nov 12….42%....47% Obama wins presidential election, Obama Approval rate 51% approve 47% disapprove
    May 13….39%....49%
    Nov 13….39%....53%
    Today…..39%....52% Obama Approval rate 44% approve 53% disapprove
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Obamacare is one of only a very few issues that the American public is on the Republican side. According to RCP 39% of Americans are for the Law, 52% are against. These percentages haven't changed much ever since the law was first passed back in 2009 when 38% were in favor and 53% against. Without the ACA, 2010 would have never happened and the Democrats would still be in power in the House. The only chance of the Republicans gaining the senate, rest solely on the abatross of the ACA.

    Now if you are asking if shutting down the government last October trying to defund the ACA, now that was stupid. Here is some history and the percentages, again thanks to RCP.

    Date…......for..against
    Nov 09….38%…53%
    May 10….40%...53%
    Nov 10….38%....54% Republicans gain 63 House seats and 6 Senate seats, Obama approval rate 45% approve 49% disapprove
    May 11….39%....52%
    Nov 11….39%....49%
    May 12….39%....49%
    Nov 12….42%....47% Obama wins presidential election, Obama Approval rate 51% approve 47% disapprove
    May 13….39%....49%
    Nov 13….39%....53%
    Today…..39%....52% Obama Approval rate 44% approve 53% disapprove
    I take it then...you voted it is not damaging.

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    Re: Obamacare

    anonymous polls suck



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    Re: Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    How does a party damage itself by fighting bad law? The question is are the democrats hurting themselves by defending it?
    They are defending a very bad law that was passed in a rush. The democrats passed it before Scott Brown could be seated thus depriving them of a filibuster proof senate. The law wasn't ready and most of them knew it. But the Democrats passed it anyway as they knew nothing would ever get passed once Brown took his seat.

    One could say is that the ACA is the only thing that is standing in the democrats way of making the Republican Party irrelevant.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obamacare

    Yes. They should have forced complete and full implementation of Obamacare since day one. Its a **** sandwich and rather than fight it, they should have forced the people that supported it without reading it to eat said **** sandwich. All of it.

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    Re: Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I take it then...you voted it is not damaging.
    That I did. I have been trying to find the state by state polls on the ACA. Here is what I have found and how the ACA is effecting the senate races in those states.

    1 State by state on the ACA (21 Feb 2014)
    National Average 39% for 52% against
    Arkansas IMPACT 27% for 63% against February 2014 Rep Cotton leads Dem incumbent Pryor by 4 points
    California PPIC 44% for 46% against February 2014 No Senate Race
    Colorado Quinnipiac 37% for 60% against February 2014 Dem Udall lost a 14 point lead and now leads by 2 points
    Florida PPP 40% for 49% against January 2014 No Senate race
    Iowa Quinnipiac 25% for 52% against Dec 2013 Dem Braley up by 3 points, was up by 9
    Louisiana PPP 33% for 53% against February 2014 Dem Landrieu down by 4 was up by 12
    Michigan Harper 35% for 55% against January 2014 Dem Peters down by 8 was up by 4
    Montana PPP 31% for 58% against Dec 2013 Dem Walsh down by 14
    New Hampshire PPP 39% for 46% against January 2014 Dem Shaheen even with Brown was up by 10
    North Carolina PPP 38% for 51% against February 2014 Dem Hagan down by 7, was up by 16
    Virginia Rasmussen 41% for 54% against January 2014 Dem Warner up by 21

    Only in Virginia it seems voting AYE on the ACA isn't hurting the Democrat incumbent senator or the new challenger for an incumbent democratic senate seat. The big question is can this one issue be kept in front of the voters from now until November and the big issue and not the other issues the Republicans are on the wrong side of?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obamacare

    Who pays for those who can't?

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    Re: Obamacare

    I really don't like the poll options, I'm not really a supporter of Obamacare but at the same time, I think it's stupid that they are still fighting it. They've voted to repeal it like...40 times? (I've lost count) and they failed each time. Their obsession with a bill that's here to stay is probably not going to attract the moderates.

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