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How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

We should be raising our daughters


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Dragonfly

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How should we be raising our daughters these days?

Should we try to instill independence, strength, common sense, confidence, perseverance, self worth, and a strong desire to achieve great things?


Or should we raise them to be dependent, submissive, shy, and always in need of protection? Wallflowers?


Should we push them towards greatness?

Or should we teach them that their place is always in the background?

Should we have a desire for them to be the leader, the captain, the driver?

Or should we teach them to accept always being the passenger, along for the ride but never making the decisions or steering the boat?


Should we raise our daughters as achievers? CEO's? Entrepreneurs? Bosses?

Or should we raise them to be followers?


Should we tell our daughters they can be ANYTHING they wish to be? Whether it be a mother of 5 kids, or the scientist that cures cancer while stationed on Mars after having piloted the first mission to Mars?

Or should we tell our daughters their place is to be a good, quiet, and submissive "second" to their spouse?

Should we raise your daughters to be strong?
Or are they to be weak and defenseless?


How do you think our daughters should be raised today?
 
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We need to go back to teaching our daughters that they have a wonderful and extremely important place in the world. A role that no man can ever take over and do as well as she can. She is the foundation of a family. Her husband may be the beautiful house that everyone sees as they drive down the road, but she is the foundation, the support structure that her husband and children are built upon. She is the undisputed ruler of the home. It is her greatest achievement to create a home where her husband and family feel comfortable, loved, and supported.
 
We need to go back to teaching our daughters that they have a wonderful and extremely important place in the world. A role that no man can ever take over and do as well as she can. She is the foundation of a family. Her husband may be the beautiful house that everyone sees as they drive down the road, but she is the foundation, the support structure that her husband and children are built upon. She is the undisputed ruler of the home. It is her greatest achievement to create a home where her husband and family feel comfortable, loved, and supported.

And if your daughter says,

"Nope - I want to go to college, major in biology, then go to grad school and study genetic-engineering so that I can become a scientist and work on finding cures for childhood diseases."

What do you do then?
 
And if your daughter says,

"Nope - I want to go to college, major in biology, then go to grad school and study genetic-engineering so that I can become a scientist and work on finding cures for childhood diseases."

What do you do then?

Pack her a bag, show her the door, take the keys, then remove her from the health insurance and my will. She can go and move in with her Uncle Steven and Aunt Cyndi who both hold doctorates in Genetic Microbiology.
 
Girls shouldn't really be raised much differently than boys. They should be taught to be independent and to be able to function well in today's society.
 
How should we be raising our daughters these days?

Should we try to instill independence, strength, common sense, confidence, perseverance, self worth, and a strong desire to achieve great things?


Or should we raise them to be dependent, submissive, shy, and always in need of protection? Wallflowers?


Should we push them towards greatness?

Or should we teach them that their place is always in the background?

Should we have a desire for them to be the leader, the captain, the driver?

Or should we teach them to accept always being the passenger, along for the ride but never making the decisions or steering the boat?


Should we raise our daughters as achievers? CEO's? Entrepreneurs? Bosses?

Or should we raise them to be followers?


Should we tell our daughters they can be ANYTHING they wish to be? Whether it be a mother of 5 kids, or the scientist that cures cancer while stationed on Mars after having piloted the first mission to Mars?

Or should we tell our daughters their place is to be a good, quiet, and submissive "second" to their spouse?

Should we raise your daughters to be strong?
Or are they to be weak and defenseless?


How do you think our daughters should be raised today?

Depends on the daughter and what their disposition is. My biological daughter, her personality is pretty set and she is about the girliest girl you ever did see and absolutely loves what she is. Dana's daughter is two and I can already tell she is going to have a rough time with her self confidence and ability to take care of herself emotionally. I have never seen a child in that much perpetual crisis. So, we will work on that.

In terms of what they want to be, who they want to be, and all that, I will let them decide and work on building their strengths and helping fill in the gaps where their weaknesses are.
 
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Girls shouldn't really be raised much differently than boys. They should be taught to be independent and to be able to function well in today's society.

Are you suggesting that men/boys and women/girls are no different than each other? If so, then I think maybe you need to go back and take biology class again. I won't even get into the emotional/psychological/mental differences if you can't deal with the physical ones.
 
Are you suggesting that men/boys and women/girls are no different than each other? If so, then I think maybe you need to go back and take biology class again. I won't even get into the emotional/psychological/mental differences if you can't deal with the physical ones.

Quit using a strawman.

Men and women are biologically different. They do not have significantly different roles in modern society.
 
Are you suggesting that men/boys and women/girls are no different than each other? If so, then I think maybe you need to go back and take biology class again. I won't even get into the emotional/psychological/mental differences if you can't deal with the physical ones.

When it comes to things like self confidence, self worth, dreams, desires, independence, education, profession, and outlook on life - then no - they should not be treated differently.

If your daughter wants to become a pilot, a veterinarian, a surgeon, a plumber, or a house wife with a gaggle of kids and a white picket fence, she should have your undying support and love.
 
Men and women are biologically different. They do not have significantly different roles in modern society.

That would suggest modern society is something to be emulated instead of the immoral, disgusting, and indecent cesspool which is destroying humanity that it actually IS.

I look at it this way.... Are we Better or Worse off TODAY than we were prior to the Women's Sufferage Movement gaining traction in the early part of the 20th Century? Technologically we are immensely superior, but socially and societally I would suggest that we are incalculably inferior to the society that existed prior to the Women's Sufferage and then Femistm movements of hte 20th Century.
 
We actually raised two daughters. Both are strong, successful married women who fortunately didn't do thing wrong things their mother and I did..:2bow:
 
When it comes to things like self confidence, self worth, dreams, desires, independence, education, profession, and outlook on life - then no - they should not be treated differently.

If your daughter wants to become a pilot, a veterinarian, a surgeon, a plumber, or a house wife with a gaggle of kids and a white picket fence, she should have your undying support and love.

Remember that I don't believe in Love. I never have and probably never will. I believe in two things: Right and Wrong. Beyond that there is nothing.
 
Remember that I don't believe in Love. I never have and probably never will. I believe in two things: Right and Wrong. Beyond that there is nothing.

Precisely why you should never pro-create, adopt, or foster. Not ever.

Said it before. I'll say it again.

Please don't.
 
That would suggest modern society is something to be emulated instead of the immoral, disgusting, and indecent cesspool which is destroying humanity that it actually IS.

I look at it this way.... Are we Better or Worse off TODAY than we were prior to the Women's Sufferage Movement gaining traction in the early part of the 20th Century? Technologically we are immensely superior, but socially and societally I would suggest that we are incalculably inferior to the society that existed prior to the Women's Sufferage and then Femistm movements of hte 20th Century.

I think modern society is a big improvement over the society of the early 1900's. There's not much point in debating it though because it's been covered repeatedly, and neither of us is going to change our mind.
 
Raise them just like a son, except they should also be taught how to overcome the waning influence that sexists still have over the workforce.
 
Depends on the daughter and what their disposition is. My biological daughter, her personality is pretty set and she is about the girliest girl you ever did see and absolutely loves what she is. Dana's daughter is two and I can already tell she is going to have a rough time with her self confidence and ability to take care of herself emotionally. I have never seen a child in that much perpetual crisis. So, we will work on that.

In terms of what they want to be, who they want to be, and all that, I will let them decide and work on building their strengths and helping fill in the gaps where their weaknesses are.
I wouldn't read too much into how a 2 year old seems. As she grows older, her independent little self will emerge.
 
Precisely why you should never pro-create, adopt, or foster. Not ever. Said it before. I'll say it again. Please don't.

That's domething you'll have to convince my fiance about much more than me.
 
That's domething you'll have to convince my fiance about much more than me.

Just have her read your posts regarding love, child rearing, and such.

Have these exact same conversations with her, and answer to her like you answer to us.

If that doesn't change her mind, you should be very afraid that you might be mixed up with a ...............
 
I wouldn't read too much into how a 2 year old seems. As she grows older, her independent little self will emerge.

Probably true. I am in a new environment as well. Dana has a much different parenting style than the ex wife did which may play a role.

Right now I am still trying to adjust how I go about things to work with what the little girl's emotional style and level is.

Like "we don't refill the juice until its actually empty" LOL
 
Just have her read your posts regarding love, child rearing, and such. Have these exact same conversations with her, and answer to her like you answer to us.
If that doesn't change her mind, you should be very afraid that you might be mixed up with a ...............

We've had all the same conversations. While she isn't 100% in agreement with me on how to raise a child, we're at probably 92-93% agreement. Then again you need to remember that she's Puerto Rican, has never held a real job, and didn't graduate high school. Her only real marketable talents are in homemaking. Nothing else.
 
Pack her a bag, show her the door, take the keys, then remove her from the health insurance and my will. She can go and move in with her Uncle Steven and Aunt Cyndi who both hold doctorates in Genetic Microbiology.

Saddened but not surprised to read this; you so often take an unnecessarily extremist stance. Many women I know, and some of them have been stay-at-home moms (maybe the hardest and most thankless job of all), met their husbands in college.

Unconditional love requires much of us sometimes. My parents, particularly my father, were very disappointed when I chose to be a stay-at-home mommie. Actually, I think he was disgusted and embarrassed at my wasting my education. I knew what was right for me, and as much as I regretted disappointing him, my own little family was my first priority.

I hope your children don't disappoint you the way I did my father, but I suspect some will. Prepare yourself, Tigger.
 
When it comes to things like self confidence, self worth, dreams, desires, independence, education, profession, and outlook on life - then no - they should not be treated differently.

If your daughter wants to become a pilot, a veterinarian, a surgeon, a plumber, or a house wife with a gaggle of kids and a white picket fence, she should have your undying support and love.

Obviously you were looking for an argument when you posted this thread. Don't get upset when someone comes along and disagrees with you. Look at your poll, you were spoiling for an argument from the get go.
 
Probably true. I am in a new environment as well. Dana has a much different parenting style than the ex wife did which may play a role.

Right now I am still trying to adjust how I go about things to work with what the little girl's emotional style and level is.

Like "we don't refill the juice until its actually empty" LOL

I was going to mention the mom's parenting style but, didn't want to offend. At 4, my granddaughter has figured out that she can play everyone differently to get her desired results.
 
Whatever your views may be we should always remember that children learn what they live....

If a child lives with criticism,
he learns to condemn.
If a child lives with hostility,
he learns to fight.
If a child lives with ridicule,
he learns to be shy.
If a child lives with shame,
he learns to feel guilty.
If a child lives with tolerance,
he learns to be patient.
If a child lives with encouragement,
he learns confidence.
If a child lives with praise,
he learns to appreciate.
If a child lives with fairness,
he learns justice.
If a child lives with security,
he learns to have faith.
If a child lives with approval,
he learns to like himself.
If a child lives with acceptance and friendship,
He learns to find love in the world


― Dorothy Law Nolte
 
Pack her a bag, show her the door, take the keys, then remove her from the health insurance and my will. She can go and move in with her Uncle Steven and Aunt Cyndi who both hold doctorates in Genetic Microbiology.

I would imagine she would benefit greatly from being raised by such clearly superior people.

Being raised by knuckle-dragging Taliban parents is a curse I would not wish on any girl.
 
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