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  • like it's the 1700's - dependent and submissive

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  • as princesses

    6 6.06%
  • no different than how we raise our sons

    17 17.17%
  • to be independent and strong individuals

    66 66.67%
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Thread: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    And you're getting married.... why?
    My fiance and I are well-matched both physically and philosophically. We come from different backgrounds but have very similar views of the world, relationships, and meet each other's needs/compliment each others strenghts and weaknesses. We get along incredibly well. In more than 2 years we've had a grand total of 3 serious arguements, all of which were worked out within a matter of two hours or less.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    . In more than 2 years we've had a grand total of 3 serious arguements, all of which were worked out within a matter of two hours or less.
    That's an awfully quick response there at your local emergency unit.

    How many stitches were required each time?
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No, I said her job is to support her family, and especially her Husband. Love is irrelevant to the concept, and if I did mention that idea, it was in total error.
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    It is her greatest achievement to create a home where her husband and family feel comfortable, loved, and supported.
    Must have been a Freudian slip, you big softie.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    That's an awfully quick response there at your local emergency unit. How many stitches were required each time?
    None of the arguements have been THAT serious. We've been to the ER several times together but never for anything the other one did. In fact over that 26 month stretch there's only been one act of physical violence from either one of us against the other, and that didn't require any amount of medical treatment.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Must have been a Freudian slip, you big softie.
    It was a slip up, but not Freudian in nature. Probably just the brain-hand connection getting hosed up for a moment.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    How should we be raising our daughters these days?

    Should we try to instill independence, strength, common sense, confidence, perseverance, self worth, and a strong desire to achieve great things?


    Or should we raise them to be dependent, submissive, shy, and always in need of protection? Wallflowers?


    Should we push them towards greatness?

    Or should we teach them that their place is always in the background?

    Should we have a desire for them to be the leader, the captain, the driver?

    Or should we teach them to accept always being the passenger, along for the ride but never making the decisions or steering the boat?


    Should we raise our daughters as achievers? CEO's? Entrepreneurs? Bosses?

    Or should we raise them to be followers?


    Should we tell our daughters they can be ANYTHING they wish to be? Whether it be a mother of 5 kids, or the scientist that cures cancer while stationed on Mars after having piloted the first mission to Mars?

    Or should we tell our daughters their place is to be a good, quiet, and submissive "second" to their spouse?

    Should we raise your daughters to be strong?
    Or are they to be weak and defenseless?


    How do you think our daughters should be raised today?
    Change every instance of "daughters" in your post to "sons". Would your questions be more...or less...valid?

    I voted "no different than how we raise our sons", but then...I had two sons and no daughters, so what do I know?
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Obviously you were looking for an argument when you posted this thread. Don't get upset when someone comes along and disagrees with you. Look at your poll, you were spoiling for an argument from the get go.
    #1) You do realize this IS a debate forum right?

    #2) Where am I upset?

    #3) I could have posted Tigger's response for him. I knew that was coming. Not a surprise to anyone who knows Tigger. Just waiting to see what others post now.

    What's your point of view on raising daughters?

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Change every instance of "daughters" in your post to "sons". Would your questions be more...or less...valid?

    I voted "no different than how we raise our sons", but then...I had two sons and no daughters, so what do I know?

    Some people obviously think girls should be raised differently.

    Some people don't think girls should have equal opportunity to chase dreams like boys do.

    It's not just Tigger. My own mother-in-law once told my oldest daughter she should not go to college, and that what she should really do is get married and start a family. I almost lost my cool over that and started a massive family dispute. Almost.

    Oldest daughter will be graduating college in May with just under a 4.0 gpa in biology.
    Still waiting on replies from medical grad schools at this time.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    How should we be raising our daughters these days?

    Should we try to instill independence, strength, common sense, confidence, perseverance, self worth, and a strong desire to achieve great things?


    Or should we raise them to be dependent, submissive, shy, and always in need of protection? Wallflowers?


    Should we push them towards greatness?

    Or should we teach them that their place is always in the background?

    Should we have a desire for them to be the leader, the captain, the driver?

    Or should we teach them to accept always being the passenger, along for the ride but never making the decisions or steering the boat?


    Should we raise our daughters as achievers? CEO's? Entrepreneurs? Bosses?

    Or should we raise them to be followers?


    Should we tell our daughters they can be ANYTHING they wish to be? Whether it be a mother of 5 kids, or the scientist that cures cancer while stationed on Mars after having piloted the first mission to Mars?

    Or should we tell our daughters their place is to be a good, quiet, and submissive "second" to their spouse?

    Should we raise your daughters to be strong?
    Or are they to be weak and defenseless?


    How do you think our daughters should be raised today?
    I have raised only my two sons, but my parenting philosophy was as follows:

    Allow them to be who they are.

    Seek to maximize their abilities based upon who they are and not according to any of my preconceptions as to how they should be.

    Don't sweat the small stuff.

    Love them thoroughly.

    It's funny how little I seek to instill and how much I manage to do so, anyway, and I would say my approach would be the same for a daughter as it was my sons. There is nothing that ruins a child faster than the notion they aren't living up to artificial expectations. Love them for who they are and not for who you want them to be, and they WILL have the sort of confidence that leads to self worth and independence.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    My fiance and I are well-matched both physically and philosophically. We come from different backgrounds but have very similar views of the world, relationships, and meet each other's needs/compliment each others strenghts and weaknesses. We get along incredibly well. In more than 2 years we've had a grand total of 3 serious arguements, all of which were worked out within a matter of two hours or less.
    How sad that the word love doesn't play into it.
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