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Thread: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Konig View Post
    We should instil in our daughters a proper set of values, not those of 21st century decadence. They should be raised to be polite, respectful, and of course inquisitive.
    Shouldn't all children be raised to be polite, respectful and inquisitive?
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Shouldn't all children be raised to be polite, respectful and inquisitive?
    Yes. Girls shouldn't be raised differently to boys other than looking after their emotional needs differently (due to the biological fact of different levels of sensitivity and different stages and speeds of maturity).

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Konig View Post
    Not at all. Being a polite and respectful lady does not mean being quiet or submissive. Woman today are more empowered than ever in Western countries. Having a good moral system instilled in them doesn't mean they cannot achieve their ambitions and doesn't deny them the chance to live well and express themselves. Instilling such values simply gives them a compass for life. What's so wrong about raising someone with manners and respect? The same should apply for raising boys too.
    The best way to display manners and respect for females is in being compliant, submissive and not heard. Boys? Totally different. Females can be ambitious if they are single and can express themselves at the nail salon.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Konig View Post
    Yes. Girls shouldn't be raised differently to boys other than looking after their emotional needs differently (due to the biological fact of different levels of sensitivity and different stages and speeds of maturity).
    You are saying that girls are more needy emotionally?
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Shouldn't all children be raised to be polite, respectful and inquisitive?
    Not boys... daughters are disadvantaged.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You are saying that girls are more needy emotionally?
    Yes, I'm saying precisely that, and I think it's a well-documented biological fact.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Konig View Post
    Yes, I'm saying precisely that, and I think it's a well-documented biological fact.
    ... then show some documents stating that then because that isn't even close to correct.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    ... then show some documents stating that then because that isn't even close to correct.
    Do Boys and Girls Express Their Emotions Differently?

    According to a recent study led by Tara M. Chaplin of the Department of Psychiatry at Yale University School of Medicine, boys and girls have very different emotional tendencies, but these fluctuate depending on age and context. In her study, Chaplin reviewed data from over 21,000 participants from over 160 separate studies focusing on emotional expression from birth to adolescence. Chaplin looked at internalizing and externalizing emotions as well as positive and negative expressions. The study revealed some interesting and novel results. Chaplin said, “Our findings suggest that there are small but significant gender differences in emotion expressions, with larger gender differences emerging at certain ages and in certain contexts.” She found that in infancy, the boys and girls exhibited similar emotional displays. However, as the children aged, significant differences emerged.

    Specifically, Chaplin found that the girls internalized their emotions more than the boys, but they also displayed more positive emotions. For instance, the girls had higher rates of anxiety and sadness than the boys, but outwardly expressed more cheerfulness and joy. The boys, on the other hand, were more likely to exhibit anger and aggression than the girls. But these variances were only evident when the children were in the presence of strangers. When they were with their parents, the children expressed a wide range of emotions, making the gender differences virtually non-existent. Chaplin believes that children may feel more comfortable with parents and may feel free to express all of their emotions. In social settings, children may feel the need to conform and therefore may not freely express their true emotions, leading to internalizing behaviors.

    Although these emotional differences were very noticeable during the toddler and elementary school ages, they were less apparent as the children matured. For instance, externalizing behaviors diminished in the boys and increased in the girls, almost to the point of being equal. Two other findings revealed concerning patterns. The adolescent girls had higher levels of shame than the boys. Because shame and guilt have been shown to be a factor in several psychological problems, including depression, self-harm, and disordered eating, this should be a key point of focus for educators and clinicians working with teen girls. Also, boys felt more joy than girls when they were provided the opportunity to taunt or tease another individual. This is disturbing too because this could increase the risk for these boys to engage in bullying and aggressive behavior. Because the trajectory of emotional expression changes as children mature, and because it is heavily influenced by family environment, social factors, and other external conditions, children will display a wide range of emotions as they develop. However, Chaplin believes it is also important to be able to identify which expressions are normal and which are signs of concern.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Housework and child raising do not require college...
    Go make me a sandwich.

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    What is wrong with jocks? I was an honor roll 4 year letterman jock in three different sports. Nobody was more of a jock than me... nobody. I still managed great grades and the ability to impress myself in many areas of life. I am very good looking as well.
    This sounds like you're saying that you're a chick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    As a father of two daughters... shhh!
    Here you tell us that you're a dude. Knowing that you're a dude completely undermines the argument about women jocks that you made above. And terrific for you that you're a good looking dude.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    You said girls were more emotionally needy. This post doesn't come close to stating such a thing. In fact, it is pretty apparent that both genders have significant emotional issues and needs.

    "girls had higher rates of anxiety and sadness than the boys, but outwardly expressed more cheerfulness and joy
    boys, on the other hand, were more likely to exhibit anger and aggression than the girls.

    When they were with their parents, the children expressed a wide range of emotions, making the gender differences virtually non-existent

    externalizing behaviors diminished in the boys and increased in the girls, almost to the point of being equal.

    girls had higher levels of shame than the boys. Because shame and guilt have been shown to be a factor in several psychological problems, including depression, self-harm, and disordered eating, this
    boys felt more joy than girls when they were provided the opportunity to taunt or tease another individual. This is disturbing too because this could increase the risk for these boys to engage in bullying and aggressive behavior."

    The most important part is this though:

    "Because the trajectory of emotional expression changes as children mature, and because it is heavily influenced by family environment, social factors, and other external conditions, children will display a wide range of emotions as they develop."
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