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  • like it's the 1700's - dependent and submissive

    3 3.03%
  • as princesses

    6 6.06%
  • no different than how we raise our sons

    17 17.17%
  • to be independent and strong individuals

    66 66.67%
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Thread: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Our Lord never ever even implied that we should not be happy. His Messages are all about love and tolerance...New Testament.
    YOUR Lord, not mine. He and I have long since stopped having any form of interaction or conversation. Just a piece of advice.... Don't trust in Him too much. He WON'T be there when you need Him. You can quote me on that the next time you talk to Him.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes, that is a place where our philosophies diverge dramatically. You seem to prefer the idea of standing before your Maker at the end of your life and sing.... "I DID IT MYYYYYYY WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!" whereas I prefer to be able to stand there and say "I did it the Right Way." At least in my mind, the response of our Maker to those two concepts will be very different.
    My mother and father made me, and they're both dead now.

    So I'm not too worried about whatever fairy-god-demon thing you think "made" you.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    My mother and father made me, and they're both dead now. So I'm not too worried about whatever fairy-god-demon thing you think "made" you.
    My condolances on the loss of your parents. My father is no longer with us, so I understand how it feels.

    You are free to believe or disbelieve whatever you want.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Our current living situation would allow for a child to be added without having to move. We would have to make some sacrifices in terms of entertainment budget and a couple of other things, but all in all we should be able to absorb the one child that we've discussed having without too much trouble. Especially since there would be no need to pay for daycare since she'd be at home all the time. Hell, my parents raised three of us kids on my father's salary which was just about what I make now.
    Oh that's right. And if it's a girl, no college or additional education will be needed.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    YOUR Lord, not mine. He and I have long since stopped having any form of interaction or conversation. Just a piece of advice.... Don't trust in Him too much. He WON'T be there when you need Him. You can quote me on that the next time you talk to Him.
    He didnt make any bargains or deals or promises to me....except that if I accept his Son into my heart and ask forgiveness, I will be admitted into His Kingdom.

    Not sure what all you think he owes you.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Oh that's right. And if it's a girl, no college or additional education will be needed.
    Correct. She gets a wedding paid for instead of college. Even a son I would be suggesting look at a trade school rather than a college at this point in time.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    He didnt make any bargains or deals or promises to me....except that if I accept his Son into my heart and ask forgiveness, I will be admitted into His Kingdom.

    Not sure what all you think he owes you.
    We have very different views on what we expect or don't expect from a diety. I know my father wasted 54 years (to the day) on that garbage and I don't intend to make the same mistake.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Nobody is saying they/she can't or shouldn't. Assuming that's what they want and chose to do.

    You're the one saying your fiance SHOULDN'T and CAN'T be a nurse, teacher, engineer, carpenter, plumber, pilot, insurance agent, auto mechanic, police officer, .......
    Exactly. Sadly, there are still those who seriously believe that women should never be anything BUT unpaid domestic servants in the home, simply because they are women. I guess some folks, both men AND women, can't move beyond the early centuries when women had NO rights whatsoever.

    Thankfully, the dark days in American history, when women had little to NO options in life, are gone. Women now have the freedom to enter the trades and professions to earn a good living on their own, WITHOUT having to be forced into marriage simply to have some kind of home. Assuming a woman has the education and training, she can enter any field she chooses, which includes being a doctor, lawyer, architect, scientist, technician, engineer, mathematician, law enforcement officer (state or federal), even the military.

    Contrary to what the ultra-regressive conservatives want everyone to believe, women are much better off being able to get the education and training to earn our own living and keep our own money instead of having to rely on a man for every little thing in life. Having to be completely dependent on a man or one's family for the essentials of money, food, and a home is IMO the worst kind of oppression and degradation a woman could be stuck with.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    YOUR Lord, not mine. He and I have long since stopped having any form of interaction or conversation. Just a piece of advice.... Don't trust in Him too much. He WON'T be there when you need Him. You can quote me on that the next time you talk to Him.
    But you still believe in Heaven or an afterlife?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    But you still believe in Heaven or an afterlife?
    I believe in many different Heavens and Hells. There is definitely an Afterlife.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean007 View Post
    ..... Having to be completely dependent on a man or one's family for the essentials of money, food, and a home is IMO the worst kind of oppression and degradation a woman could be stuck with.
    Even when SHE chooses that sort of life?

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