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Thread: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How did you know that's what I do every time I walk into the office and see women there?
    lulz..........

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How did you know that's what I do every time I walk into the office and see women there?
    I didn't know that. But now I do and am curious: Are there any female bosses? If so, do you just gag or go on and vomit when you have to deal with them?

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    If I had a daughter, I would teach her:

    To treat everyone fairly regaurdless of race, gender, or thought:

    There are still children heavily influenced by their parents beliefs which are dated and out of touch with current day morality.

    To allow herself to rely on others (to trust) but not to her detriment:

    To many people today are actually TO INDEPENDENT! This has gotten in the way of healthy relationships both with friends and significant others. Trust has gone out the window. That being said, I would also teach her the pitfalls of trusting the wrong person. It is not always bad to give someone a chance with your trust and let them fail, but if you decide to gamble, make sure it's a gable you can afford to loose.

    To not take advantage of her own gender, but also understand that their is beauty in being a female. As well as utility in being male.

    I would teach my daughter that she should not conform to the current culture of taking advantage of her gender. She should be willing to do anything she asks someone else to do for her, or at least try it. But at the same time understanding there is a difference between men and women and those differences are beautiful and not indicative of submissiveness or discrimination. To many women today do not appreciate what men do for them and even worse, feel that what men can do for them enslaves them instead of helps them. Blaming men for their inherent biological differences that they can do nothing about. That taking a submissive role and trusting a man to make a decision and standing behind him, right or wrong, is not a bad thing. But at the same time, not being submissive to her detriment. That both men and women should be submissive to each other. That is the only way a healthy relationship can go on.

    To abandon the idea that a man should approach her to initiate a relationship and that the jocks in life are the ones she should be interested in:

    It is time for women to step up to the plate and believe in what they preach. They want to be equal in the office at work, but still want to play the submissive role when it comes to dating. Then they want to complain about all the assholes they attract when they don't do anything to go out and initiate a relationship. When I say initiate a relationship, I don't mean to choose from the group of guys that approach her, but to go out and approach a guy herself without initiation from the guy. I would teach her that the best way to find a good guy is to make an effort to approach one. To throw the traditional notions out the window that an attractive guy has to be an alpha male ("jock"), has to be make a lot of money (post high school jock type), or have a high status. Because none of this matters. What matters is if she is in love with the person, not the superficialness of him, but the heart of the person.

    Those are just a few things I would teach my daughter, if I had one.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
    - Idealistically, everything should work as you planed it to. Realistically, it depends on how idealistic you are as to the measure of success.
    - Better to be a pessimist before, and an optimist afterwords.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    If I had a daughter, I'd raise her to be the best female of all time.
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I didn't know that. But now I do and am curious: Are there any female bosses? If so, do you just gag or go on and vomit when you have to deal with them?
    No female bosses in my area. If I had to deal with a female boss it would be by quitting. In fact I turned down a potential promotion back in 2006 because it would have meant working for a woman.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    If I had a daughter, I'd raise her to be the best female of all time.
    Best to which standard?

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    The assumption here it is that we create personality of our offspring. That is half of the truth.

    The agreement between genetic and environmental determinst's today is that offspring are genetically pre-desposed to be something, environment defines how much of that thing they will be. So if the daughter is strong in becoming something of her own choosing then she has to go out and look for the appropriate environment that supports it. If not she should stay here and go along with the expectations of the environment here.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Best to which standard?
    Everything.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    How did you know that's what I do every time I walk into the office and see women there?
    Yeah, I'm sure you do. It must be so hard for you, knowing women can and DO work in offices, even be the BOSSES in some of those offices. Too bad.

    Even though you prefer that women be nothing more than slaves in the home, catering to a man's every stupid whim, you'll just have to deal with the fact that women AREN'T stuck in such a miserable existence for the rest of their lives. At least not in the United States, unless a woman has the worst luck in the world to end up married to a guy who is stuck in the 12th century or earlier where women are concerned. Thank goodness that will NEVER be me.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No female bosses in my area. If I had to deal with a female boss it would be by quitting. In fact I turned down a potential promotion back in 2006 because it would have meant working for a woman.
    At least you're honest, Tigger.

    There are other men who secretly chafe at being chaired/directed/led by a woman--not many, but some, and I think a few of them are secretly very angry.

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