View Poll Results: We should be raising our daughters

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  • like it's the 1700's - dependent and submissive

    3 3.03%
  • as princesses

    6 6.06%
  • no different than how we raise our sons

    17 17.17%
  • to be independent and strong individuals

    66 66.67%
  • squirrel ......

    7 7.07%
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Thread: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We've had all the same conversations. While she isn't 100% in agreement with me on how to raise a child, we're at probably 92-93% agreement. Then again you need to remember that she's Puerto Rican, has never held a real job, and didn't graduate high school. Her only real marketable talents are in homemaking. Nothing else.
    Mail order bride?

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Many women who thought that they were going to be housewives face a rude awakening when her husband leaves or other financial crisis requires her to have to find a job. These days everyone should have a marketable job skill and get some work experience before leaving the job market.
    I know it's contentious to even cite the writings of feminists here, but I'm reminded that one of the criticisms of Betty Friedan (The Feminine Mystique) that was made by black women and women living at or near poverty during the 60's and 70's, was that Friedan's lament about bored housewives was a luxury that many women did not have, and did not have historically before that golden age of the 1950's when the middle class expanded to encompass the majority of the population. The Feminine Mystique did not answer or address many of the concerns of those women, and that's why the feminist movement of the 60's was a collection of white female college graduates, who had no material concerns, and were fighting mostly against sexist rules and policies that barred them from many professions even after they had the credentials. Not that those weren't legitimate goals also, but the idea that every woman was a housewife before 2nd wave feminism, is another modern myth without much connection to what was happening in real life back then.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I find it quite hypocritical for liberals to complain about conservatives placing a value on money, when money is the primary tool that liberals use to affect their agenda upon society.
    "Liberal"! Really! After all this, you think I'm a liberal? You need to find yourself an appropriate definition of liberalism then, because real liberals seek compromises and workaround strategies with the right...and that's not where I am coming from!
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    How should we be raising our daughters these days?
    I think everybody raises their children wrong. Don't worry about it. Relax.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Guys, don't let Tigger get you down. He thrives on threads like this. Loves to stir up sand with his outrageous look on life. I don't feel sorry for his fiancé, because she allows him to treat her this way.
    I would feel sorry for his fiancee....if this story is true of course, because many women who are abused, expect to be abused.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    And if your daughter says,

    "Nope - I want to go to college, major in biology, then go to grad school and study genetic-engineering so that I can become a scientist and work on finding cures for childhood diseases."

    What do you do then?
    Call the Taliban and report her for possessing a belligerent attitude. Don't accuse her of being belligerent. That can be proven to be false. Accuse her of having a belligerent attitude. Attitudes are abstract and can never be proven one way or the other. The accuser has the advantage.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    "Liberal"! Really! After all this, you think I'm a liberal? You need to find yourself an appropriate definition of liberalism then, because real liberals seek compromises and workaround strategies with the right...and that's not where I am coming from!
    Liberals don't compromise.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    I don't have daughters, but this question reminded me that one of reasons cited for the increase in eating disorders in teenage and even preteen girls is because they are being saddled with higher expectations than boys today in our culture.

    Girls are expected to excel in school by their parents, to be beautiful - by the constant barrage of messaging they receive from advertising and pop media, to achieve in sports now, to be kind, well mannered by everyone.....is it any wonder why there are so many girls with bulimia and anorexia today?
    In general, it has to be concluded that our society does a better job of raising women than men. Men are much more likely to commit suicide, become addicts, get into the criminal "justice' system, become violent and/or a victim of victim of violence, more likely to be injured or disabled and they die younger, often from preventable diseases/conditions.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    As many of you already know, I have raised 5 daughters. So I have a little bit of experience.


    I know I did something right because they are all happy, healthy, well-adjusted adults in their mid-20s now.


    I taught them to be strong, both physically and mentally. I had a gym in the basement and started them all on strength training when they were about 7 or 8 and they started martial arts training around the same age.


    From an early age I taught them to enjoy exercise rather than loathe it. Today, my 4th daughter is a high school biology teacher by day and a personal trainer and kickboxing instructor in the evening, on the weekends and in the summer. She is planning on opening a fitness center. I've no doubt that she will be successful in that endeavor. She was always the enterprising one.


    I also taught them all about nutrition and taught them to ignore the misinformation regarding nutrition that their school and the government will spew at them.


    I think that being very healthy, looking good and not being physically intimidated by males are key to a girl's self-confidence.


    It also gave me confidence when they started dating. I wasn't afraid of them getting date raped because they could whoop ass. By the time they started dating they had several years of martial arts training.


    I've always valued physical fitness and have instilled that value into their psyche.


    I also taught my daughters that they deserve respect and if someone doesn't respect them then that person deserves no respect in return. Respect is a two way street.


    I also taught them all to meditate in order to maintain peace of mind and improve their concentration.


    I also believed in being a nonjudgmental parent. This made it easier for them to talk to me about anything. Kept an open line of communication.


    And a tip for those of you with young daughters. The Girl Scouts organization is about more than selling cookies. I highly recommend it.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    How should we be raising our daughters these days?
    Tell us how you raised your daughters.

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