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  • like it's the 1700's - dependent and submissive

    3 3.03%
  • as princesses

    6 6.06%
  • no different than how we raise our sons

    17 17.17%
  • to be independent and strong individuals

    66 66.67%
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Thread: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    ... and we're much worse off for that fact.
    Alright, I'm fascinated. Genuinely -- what makes you tick? What is your life story and political stance that makes you think that?

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Alright, I'm fascinated. Genuinely -- what makes you tick? What is your life story and political stance that makes you think that?

    Please....not here...not in this thread.....not now..... aaaaaaaaaaggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Alright, I'm fascinated. Genuinely -- what makes you tick? What is your life story and political stance that makes you think that?
    If you click on his name and pull up his history of postings, all your questions will be answered.

    Not ALL of his 12,000 postings are about his need to degrade women, mind you. I doubt if any more than 11,500 do that.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Alright, I'm fascinated. Genuinely -- what makes you tick? What is your life story and political stance that makes you think that?
    What makes me tick.... Order. Law & Order. A place for everything/everyone and everything/everyone in their place. I come from a very strict, conservative, and religious family. A family that on both sides has been that way for generations. A family where members have thrown census bureau officers out of homes for refusing to list ethnicity/heritage as "AMERICAN" since those parts of the family have been here for more than 300 years. Tradition, Heritage, and Morality would be keywords for my family. I'm a Conservative, bordering on Authoritarian politically because I do not believe that the American people deserve or can handle the concept of Freedom anymore.

    My life story would take a very long time to describe. Suffice it to say that I was born with a significant and very obvious birth defect. It has been a catalyst for much of my view of the world over the last 40 years and how I treat people. If you're really interested in a more in-depth conversation on this topic, please IM me so we don't take the thread any further off-topic than we already are. Thanks.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Please....not here...not in this thread.....not now..... aaaaaaaaaaggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Probably true. I am in a new environment as well. Dana has a much different parenting style than the ex wife did which may play a role.

    Right now I am still trying to adjust how I go about things to work with what the little girl's emotional style and level is.

    Like "we don't refill the juice until its actually empty" LOL
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Any girl in my life, niece or daughter of friend, I give 2 pieces of advice.

    #1. Don't make a decision that will change the rest of your life. Taking drugs can change their life. Sex can change their life, and so on.

    #2. Educate yourself and make your life. After that you can add a man to your life. I can't count how many women I have talked to that got married Young (she was added to his life) and then when the marriage or relationship ended, she was incapable of even getting a job to support the kids because she had never done anything but rely on the man. I hate to see that.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Good question. All I can say is he's consistent. I'm guessing he's more bark than bite....and hoping that as well.
    Yes, anyone can make up anything they want about themselves on a forum. It doesn't really matter a whole lot if the story is at least plausible and they are consistent, and don't change their stories over time.
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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    When it comes to things like self confidence, self worth, dreams, desires, independence, education, profession, and outlook on life - then no - they should not be treated differently.

    If your daughter wants to become a pilot, a veterinarian, a surgeon, a plumber, or a house wife with a gaggle of kids and a white picket fence, she should have your undying support and love.

    Many women who thought that they were going to be housewives face a rude awakening when her husband leaves or other financial crisis requires her to have to find a job. These days everyone should have a marketable job skill and get some work experience before leaving the job market.

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    re: How We Raise Our Daughters - 21st Century [W:87,158,368]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Not just breeding.... cooking, cleaning, keeping the house, raising the children, etc... What they are not of value for is their abilities in the workforce at large.
    A disgusting attitude towards women I thought was just part of old guys' thinking when I was growing up. Sad to see that conservative reactionaries keep retreading bad ideas as long as possible!

    You're more than welcome to move to some Socialist/Communist country like Cuba. I'm sure the swim to get there would get you in shape if you aren't already. The problem with our economic system is that people are not actually punished for their unwillingness to participate in it because those of your political ilk (like FDR) have provided them with a safety net to keep them from starving or freezing to death. Money isn't the value.... POWER is. It has been since the beginning of time and that hasn't been any different in any Socialist/Communist system that has ever existed either.
    I live in Canada, and have vacationed in Cuba five times during my life...so, I can go to Cuba any time I feel like (and have free vacation weeks)...and we plan to go back again next year! That's the advantage of living in Canada, we're not trying to fight Castro and run a stupid embargo. Even with the embargo, and constant attempts at subversion by the CIA, Cubans still live a damn sight better than other Caribbean nations and most Latin Americans, with rare exceptions like Costa Rica. And, the average Cuban is much better off today than back when the Island was known as "The Whorehouse of America," when Cuba was owned by a sugar conglomerate and the Mafia. The goal of U.S. policymakers ever since the turn of the 20th century, was to turn every nation to their south into a vassal state for American economic and military interests. Cuba is the one that got away, and every Latin American nation that tries to go their own way instead of being saddled with IMF and World Bank debts and a puppet government, becomes a target (Venezuela). But, enough on that....off topic anyway!

    Hold onto your pity for someone who gives a **** about it. We are very compatible. You'll have to talk to her about the children issue.
    Not my question, but since it's in this post, would you want your daughter to marry a man like you? Many guys who have daughters all of a sudden find a new-found concern and respect for women after they have daughters of their own, and become concerned about their safety as they grow up, and what sort of quality of life they will have after they grow up.
    Why should our nastiness be the baggage of an apish past and our kindness uniquely human? Why should we not seek continuity with other animals for our "noble" traits as well?
    Stephen J. Gould

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