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Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

Men: Would you marry an American Woman?

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TheGirlNextDoor said:
I'm pretty stressed most times because of my ****ty ass 60+ hour a week job.

For the rest of your post, I have no comment. Mostly because it's nobody's business. :-/
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Well, I'm paying attention. :lol:
 
Gathomas88 said:
Sure. It simply happens to be the case that, due to either intrinsic biology or cultural conditioning, men are a lot better at pushing that "breaking point" back than many women.

I don't necessarily view that as being a "bad" thing. It can actually come in rather useful.

I mean... Let's face it. There are women out there who will almost literally cry at the drop of a hat. :lol:

That really doesn't help anything.
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I disagree. Men choose to turn to other methods that also don't help or are productive. You said earlier something about punching a wall. How is that productive?

It sure doesn't help anything either.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I disagree. Men choose to turn to other methods that also don't help or are productive. You said earlier something about punching a wall. How is that productive?

It sure doesn't help anything either.
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Good point. It's even less productive than crying because you can actually hurt yourself.
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I'm pretty stressed most times because of my ****ty ass 60+ hour a week job.

For the rest of your post, I have no comment. Mostly because it's nobody's business. :-/
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I'm trying to garner sympathy here, babe. I'm the meek guy. :-*
 
TheGirlNextDoor said:
I disagree. Men choose to turn to other methods that also don't help or are productive. You said earlier something about punching a wall. How is that productive?

It sure doesn't help anything either.
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ChrisL said:
Good point. It's even less productive than crying because you can actually hurt yourself.
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True, but it's usually not quite that extreme. :lol:

Anger can also be useful when it serves as a force motivating a person to take action. Crying rarely has that impact in the heat of the moment.

I was actually in a very mild car accident (fender bender, basically) about a year and a half ago.

I pulled over, got out, assessed the damage, called the cops, and made contact with other person involved before the other driver even had time to get out of her car.

Why?

Because she was crying instead.

Not to make sweeping generalizations here or anything, but women seem to run into those kinds of problems a lot in my experience. I'm actually glad that it's not something I have to deal with. :shrug:
 
Gathomas88 said:
True, but it's usually not quite that extreme. :lol:

Anger can also be useful when it serves as a force motivating a person to take action. Crying rarely has that impact in the heat of the moment.

I was actually in a very mild car accident (fender bender, basically) about a year and a half ago.

I pulled over, got out, assessed the damage, called the cops, and made contact with other person involved before the other driver even had time to get out of her car.

Why?

Because she was crying instead.

Not to make sweeping generalizations here or anything, but women seem to run into those kinds of problems a lot in my experience.
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How old was she? I think that plays a factor too. I remember my young neighbor (she was like 19) got in a car wreck outside of our house and she was a blubbering idiot. She actually cried for her mother. . . for real. The paramedics ended up having to literally restrain her because she as fighting with them, and she wasn't even injured. Lol!

I understand she was frightened and young, and probably explains her irrational behavior.
 
ChrisL said:
How old was she? I think that plays a factor too. I remember my young neighbor (she was like 19) got in a car wreck outside of our house and she was a blubbering idiot. She actually cried for her mother. . . for real. The paramedics ended up having to literally restrain her because she as fighting with them, and she wasn't even injured. Lol!

I understand she was frightened and young, and probably explains her irrational behavior.
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She looked to be in her forties. :shock:

To be fair, however, she wasn't hysterical, or anything. It just took her several minutes to compose herself afterwards.

My mother actually told me that she had the same reaction to an accident she had in her thirties as well.

This might simply be coincidence, of course, but it almost seems like a lot of women cry in response to stress simply as a matter of reflex. Men usually go the opposite direction and either get angry or shut down their emotions entirely.
 
Gipper said:
Do I really need to? I can, but prepare for me to be incredibly condescending.
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I prefer NOT to put words in peoples mouths. So, please elaborate
 
ChrisL said:
If she HAS to ask him 50 times to help her around the house, then she should kick his worthless arse out.
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Well, keep in mind that the behavior that Peter was arguing against was not behavior I was supporting. He considers those behaviors things that control women and things that third parties should set some sort of acceptable stand for to make men better in marriages and relationships. Nothing he described in any of his posts controls women or makes them do anything they don't desire to do, and these kind of decisions should be dealt with by those involved in relationship, not by people outside of it. I find it very foolish and two-faced to complain about womens work and then to try to set a new standard that doesn't really remove the underlining problem with the idea, but just refocuses it.
 
Gipper said:
As a white man, you can't get a civil service job, a college scholarship, any type of legal protection, government funds (welfare, food stamps, etc.)...I could go on and on, but being a woman has distinct advantages in many, many ways.
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I know plenty of white men who have gotten all of those.
 
ChrisL said:
It's just a way to relieve stress, instead of punching something or someone.
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Personally, I just combine completely unrelated words and a few expletives into a nonsensical phrase, then use it as a swear word.
 
The Mark said:
Personally, I just combine completely unrelated words and a few expletives into a nonsensical phrase, then use it as a swear word.
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Hey, whatever works for you. :lol:
 
Henrin said:
Well, keep in mind that the behavior that Peter was arguing against was not behavior I was supporting. He considers those behaviors things that control women and things that third parties should set some sort of acceptable stand for to make men better in marriages and relationships. Nothing he described in any of his posts controls women or makes them do anything they don't desire to do, and these kind of decisions should be dealt with by those involved in relationship, not by people outside of it. I find it very foolish and two-faced to complain about womens work and then to try to set a new standard that doesn't really remove the underlining problem with the idea, but just refocuses it.
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I agree. While it certainly sounds like his father was kind of a worthless excuse for a man, I don't see any evidence to suggest that he was especially "controlling" of women.
 
Gathomas88 said:
This might simply be coincidence, of course, but it almost seems like a lot of women cry in response to stress simply as a matter of reflex. Men usually go the opposite direction and either get angry or shut down their emotions entirely.
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I shut down until I'm really really really pissed off, then I come unglued on someone's ass, but it takes a very long time to push my buttons enough to do that. The only time I cry is usually when all other emotions have run their course, and there is nothing else left to do or say. That probably happens about once or twice in 5 years. I can remember to the day the last time it happened.
 
lizzie said:
I shut down until I'm really really really pissed off, then I come unglued on someone's ass, but it takes a very long time to push my buttons enough to do that. The only time I cry is usually when all other emotions have run their course, and there is nothing else left to do or say. That probably happens about once or twice in 5 years. I can remember to the day the last time it happened.
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That's probably because you don't cry and let your emotions out. I think everyone needs a good cry now and then. You might feel like crap during, but you feel much better later on.
 
ChrisL said:
That's probably because you don't cry and let your emotions out. I think everyone needs a good cry now and then. You might feel like crap during, but you feel much better later on.
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I'm the same way as lizzie -- the pressure bomb. Happened maybe three times in the last ten years.

Honestly, it's not that I think crying is "weak" or anything. It's just that I feel so sedated when I cry. It's like, "Goddamn it. So I'm gonna spend the next 10 minutes sitting here and crying and then I'm gonna be all tired and spend the rest of the night doing nothing? Really? *sigh*"

Although I do cry more often than I explode, probably not more than once or twice a year, unless it's been a horrendously bad year.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I'm the same way as lizzie -- the pressure bomb. Happened maybe three times in the last ten years.

Honestly, it's not that I think crying is "weak" or anything. It's just that I feel so sedated when I cry. It's like, "Goddamn it. So I'm gonna spend the next 10 minutes sitting here and crying and then I'm gonna be all tired and spend the rest of the night doing nothing? Really? *sigh*"

Although I do cry more often than I explode, probably not more than once or twice a year, unless it's been a horrendously bad year.
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Sometimes, I just feel sad and cry. Sometimes, I just go with it for a little while. Then I compose myself.
 
ChrisL said:
Sometimes, I just feel sad and cry. Sometimes, I just go with it for a little while. Then I compose myself.
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I can do the tear-in-the-eye thing and be fine, but if I'm going to have a proper cry, I'm useless for the rest of the night.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I'm the same way as lizzie -- the pressure bomb. Happened maybe three times in the last ten years.

Honestly, it's not that I think crying is "weak" or anything. It's just that I feel so sedated when I cry. It's like, "Goddamn it. So I'm gonna spend the next 10 minutes sitting here and crying and then I'm gonna be all tired and spend the rest of the night doing nothing? Really? *sigh*"

Although I do cry more often than I explode, probably not more than once or twice a year, unless it's been a horrendously bad year.
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ChrisL said:
Sometimes, I just feel sad and cry. Sometimes, I just go with it for a little while. Then I compose myself.
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
I can do the tear-in-the-eye thing and be fine, but if I'm going to have a proper cry, I'm useless for the rest of the night.
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I've gotta say. This is an almost entirely alien concept for me.

If I'm going to cry about anything, somebody had better have just died. :lol:
 
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Gathomas88 said:
I've gotta say. This is an almost entirely alien concept for me.

If I'm going to cry about anything, some body had better have just died. :lol:
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I could try to make you cry. :lol:
 
ChrisL said:
That's probably because you don't cry and let your emotions out. I think everyone needs a good cry now and then. You might feel like crap during, but you feel much better later on.
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If crying it out came naturally to me, I'd do it, but you can't force yourself to respond against your nature and your conditioning, to emotional stimuli. Crying is my outlet for pain, but not for anger.
 
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