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Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

Men: Would you marry an American Woman?


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Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

So, don't get with a person who disrespects you. You think foreign people can't be rude and disrespectful? Think again. :lol:

Exactly. While there are, arguably, some perks to marrying foreign, and there are some rather troubling trends running through modern American culture, it's not like every woman in the United States is a soul sucking she-devil either. There are plenty of "nice" girls to be found in the US, many of them with family oriented values and sensibilities. A guy just needs to know where to look for them.

Frankly, if you're willing to respect yourself, and stand by your values, you shouldn't need to worry about anyone else disrespecting you or forcing you to change what you believe anyway.

Lord knows I'm not about to change my allegedly "cave man" ways simply to appease some pushy female who majored in "women's studies" in college. There's really no reason why any other man should have to do so either. :lol:

Rolling over and "playing dead" is always a personal choice. Claiming that someone else forced you into it is nothing more than a convenient excuse.
 
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So how do you get respect when don't give it? You don't. See, if your mommy knew anything about human nature she would have known that.

Yeah, it is every one else's fault. Another thing my mom taught me is to be responsible for myself.
 
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Exactly. While there are, arguably, some perks to marrying foreign, and there are some rather troubling trends running through modern American culture, it's not like every woman in the United States is a soul sucking she-devil either. There are plenty of "nice" girls to be found in the US, many of them with family oriented values and sensibilities. A guy just needs to know where to look for them.

Frankly, if you're willing to respect yourself, and stand by your values, you shouldn't need to worry about anyone else disrespecting you or forcing you to change what you believe anyway.

Lord knows I'm not about to change my allegedly "cave man" ways simply to appease some pushy female who majored in "women's studies" in college. There's really no reason why any other man should have to do so either. :lol:

Rolling over and "playing dead" is always a personal choice. Claiming that someone else forced you into it is nothing more than a convenient excuse.

That sounds like it would be a good sitcom! :lol:
 
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You know I am just thankful to find a thread on this forum that is actually having a discussion between male and female unions instead of same sex. :)
I can also understand why a number of males look to Asians and other women for a mate. Many American women no longer see the male as substantial in in any relationship. Just look at the single mother stats to figure that one out. Unfortunately for the female race she is crashing and burning at proving little to no success on that one. As I read these posts, I find myself being ever more grateful for my mate. He is an all American male and I am an all American female. We have been together for multiple decades. Raised children who are functioning well in society. I walk beside my mate. We are equals. He brings things to our relationship that I can't. And I do the same. I call him the head of house, and I am the heart. Each has a distinctive roll to play. And both are just as equal in need if you are wishing to achieve balance.
 
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*yawn* More whining from the strike-out crew, blaming their own issues with getting a date and keeping a mate on some evil feminist conspiracy.

The fact is, America is far less feminist and less equal than many of the countries you folks would prefer to "get your women" from. I don't think any of you even know what progressive gender dynamics are, if you think for one second that America qualifies in the grand scheme of developed nations.

It's also kind of hysterical that you fail to see that talking about women as though they were various flavors of soup and whining like children might be part of the reason you're having a hard time finding a date.

Yeah, some chick in a magazine in a backwater sinkhole of a country will probably marry you. But trust me, and trust the many men who've been burned by them, it isn't because of her "traditional values." It's because her life sucks and you're her ticket out. This goes both ways -- men are the predators in some other countries in Europe, tricking vulnerable Eastern block women with free movement in the EU.

I'm sure I'll be accused by people who know better of all the usual -- the archetype of the man-hating feminazi psycho -- despite my endless hours and tens of thousands of words dedicated to discussing gender issues going both ways.

But fine with me. I don't really concern myself with impressing the furious projecting type.
 
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Some men DO want a woman they can control, and they don't want a woman who can think for herself. I think this is one reason why some conservative men seem to be "interested" in young teen girls or want to go "get a woman" from another country because they are under the impression she will be more submissive.
 
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Hmmm... Looks at post above. :lol:

edit: Well, above that one. lol

For your information, I never took a womens' studies class. I find those people unbearable. Just as unbearable as their inverse, shown here.
 
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Hmmm... Looks at post above. :lol:

edit: Well, above that one. lol

Now, now, be nice!
 
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Some men DO want a woman they can control, and they don't want a woman who can think for herself. I think this is one reason why some conservative men seem to be "interested" in young teen girls or want to go "get a woman" from another country because they are under the impression she will be more submissive.

That kind of depends on how you define the term, to be honest. An ideological feminist would likely describe what Vesper posted here, for instance, as being "submissive" and "demeaning."

I call him the head of house, and I am the heart. Each has a distinctive roll to play. And both are just as equal in need if you are wishing to achieve balance.

However, I know from her other posts on the board (unless I am misremembering things, in which case I apologize) that she actually had quite a successful career as a business woman while still having a more "traditional" view on marriage and gender roles.

I really don't think that notions of traditional "femininity" and "empowerment" need to be mutually exclusive. Modern American culture simply seems to have a vested interest in trying to convince women that they are.

While I certainly don't think this is true across the board, I do think a case could be made that a lot of women from foreign cultures understand this reality better than some of their American counter-parts.
 
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That kind of depends on how you define the term, TBH. An ideological feminist would likely describe what Vesper posted here as , for instance, as being "submissive" and "demeaning."



However, I know from her other posts on the board (unless I am misremembering things, in which case I apologize) that she actually had quite a successful career as a business woman while still having a more "traditional" marriage.

I really don't think that notions of traditional "femininity" and "empowerment" need be mutually exclusive. Modern culture simply seems to have a vested interest in trying to convince women that they are.

While I certainly don't think this is true across the board, I do think a case could be made that a lot of women from foreign cultures understand this reality better than some of their American counter-parts.

I don't see how you would think that. Usually as long as you guys get dinner and sex, you'll shut up. :lamo J/K!
 
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Thankfully, the value of your opinion is variable. :mrgreen: I'm not even really what I would consider "progressive" but that was still kind of offensive to women in general IMO.

It's more of a compatibility thing. :mrgreen: I would think however that many men agree that progressive women are not women you can live with. As for you, from I have seen you're a conservative that supports some liberal social policies. In short, you're a conservative moderate. Not an entirely unexpected mix for women.
 
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I don't see how you would think that. Usually as long as you guys get dinner and sex, you'll shut up. :lamo J/K!

You know our ways well, Chris. :yes:

:lol:
 
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Yeah, it is every one else's fault. Another thing my mom taught me is to be responsible for myself.

No, to be a kind respectful person you should treat every person you come across with respect and kindness. However, if you go around disrespecting people because "they haven't earned respect yet" there is a good chance people won't like you and the chances of them disrespecting you will be higher. I know this is a hard subject for you, but do try to keep up.
 
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It's more of a compatibility thing. :mrgreen: I would think however that many men agree that progressive women are not women you can live with. As for you, from I have seen you're a conservative that supports some liberal social policies. In short, you're a conservative moderate. Not an entirely unexpected mix for women.

I would agree with that. :)
 
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No, to be a kind respectful person you should treat every person you come across with respect and kindness. However, if you go around disrespecting people because "they haven't earned respect yet" there is a good chance people won't like you and the chances of them disrespecting you will be higher. I know this is a hard subject for you, but do try to keep up.

Disrespect, like respect, is earned.
 
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The truth is hard to swallow, I know. Despite your apparent distaste for it, the disrespect and cuckoldry of men is praised by feminists and their white knight counterparts.

Hmmm. Not sure I understand this post. The disrespect and cuckoldry of women has been a badge of honor for men for millenia....I'd agree it's wrong...but maybe it's learning by example?
 
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I thought of a third option, but I laugh because it's not a good one.

While I was coughing my guts out late last night, I was listening to an older episode of This American Life. This older American gentleman had a bit of an asian fetish, and thought that if he found one to marry, she would be perfect. Perfect meant subservient, happy, quiet, and basically taking care of the household. Of course, when it started to come out, his relationship with this young gal from China hit the fan when she demonstrated a will of her own and didn't take his need to find a pillow for a wife. I almost felt disgusted when they finally got hitched. He improved himself, but that sort of attitude toward women must keep going throughout, you know?

The Japanbese have a couple of concepts that relate to this and illustrate it. First is yamato nadeshiko, which is essentially the perfect stereotypical wife. She is little more than an extension of her husband. Quiet, well mannered, she serves and services her husband without complaint or giving an opinion. Needless to say this is not a healthy state of being, which leads to the second concept, the yandere. A yandere is a yamato nadeshiko who has snapped. She is still to all appearances a yamato nadeshiko, but she is leaving a trail of dead, dismembered bodies behind her. But with a smile on her face and impeccably dressed.
 
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Thanks, Alpha Male. We knew you'd show up eventually to pour scorn on other men like you always do. Don't worry, you can have all the American girls.

I say the same to any women...and to women alot more often than men...it's your own fault if you allow a partner to disrespect you.
 
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That's the plan.

I don't really see this disrespect in my daily life.
 
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Some men DO want a woman they can control, and they don't want a woman who can think for herself. I think this is one reason why some conservative men seem to be "interested" in young teen girls or want to go "get a woman" from another country because they are under the impression she will be more submissive.

Well said
 
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The Japanbese have a couple of concepts that relate to this and illustrate it. First is yamato nadeshiko, which is essentially the perfect stereotypical wife. She is little more than an extension of her husband. Quiet, well mannered, she serves and services her husband without complaint or giving an opinion. Needless to say this is not a healthy state of being, which leads to the second concept, the yandere. A yandere is a yamato nadeshiko who has snapped. She is still to all appearances a yamato nadeshiko, but she is leaving a trail of dead, dismembered bodies behind her. But with a smile on her face and impeccably dressed.
Sounds like a movie plot.
 
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So let me know how well the whining on the internets thing works for getting women to respect you.

I'd like to know the definition of 'feminist' these days.

Are all American women feminists? Or are some men just bitching because now American have more equality because of feminists?

Or are all American women that they dont like 'feminists?'
 
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Disrespect for men has become standard practice.

The result has been that men are increasingly dropping out of society. They don't marry, they don't go to college because they see no reason to break their humps to get ready to provide for a family -- they aren't going to be having a family.

But men are not dropping out because of arrested development. They are acting rationally in response to myriad laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century.

I thought this was my imagination running rampant.
 
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