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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    No, there is no symmetry in this situation. Time was when women were underrepresented in universities and professions it was regarded as being men's fault, which was true enough. Now that women control much of the educational process when men have become increasingly underrepresented in colleges and the professions it's still men's fault for being childish, unambitious or whatnot. But talk to young men and you find out that they regard academe as hostile to them in various ways. I can tell by what you say that you are blaming men, and that's not going to change on your part. Think of all the ways in which men are disrespected and hated in the universities and it will come as no surprise how many young men feel. By the same token men who enter marriage are at an extreme disadvantage. Any effort to change that is met by howls of rage from women. Any criticism of the institution of marriage is met by defensiveness on the part of women. They like the advantages they have, worthless false rationalizations about the way things are notwitstanding.
    Simply denying what is going on in reality doesn't make it disappear.

    And where am I blaming men? I have spent hours on DP hammering on the fact that it is primarily the responsibility of feminism to deal with the complications of slow social change. I have spent hours on DP talking about the inequality of the court system in divorce and child custody. I have seen other feminists do the same, and I have had great success changing the minds of feminists who simply don't realize how big of a problem these things are.

    Women who like patriarchal advantages are not feminists. The fact that divorce has made it possible for these patriarchal ideas to hurt men is not the fault of feminism, although it is their responsibility to insist that the implementation of the law reflect equality, both for the dignity of women and the fair treatment of men.

    How things pan out in university largely depends on what program you're taking. Many of the liberal arts are not friendly towards men, but they also aren't friendly towards white people in general. However, go to the sciences, and it's a very unfriendly and demeaning world for women, who are viewed as uniquely incompetent, and they are also very unkind towards the disabled. It also depends on what school you're going to.

    Reality is complex. And you simply choose to view it as heroes versus villains, villains apparently being over 50% of the population, most of whom are just trying to live their lives.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Some people just don't have a clue about how to live their life. They believe in traditional values like how the male is the provider (while remaining incapable of supporting a family), women being the submissive homemaker (and look for such women in clubs), and personal responsibility (while complaining that societal change is the reason for all their problems)

    And then they wonder why things aren't working out for them
    And ya know, that's just fine...if you find a woman that agrees with that. And there are some. I guess just less. If men do not want to respect that women want more choices and opportunities in life, then either they have to adapt or keep at it until they find the right match. Whining about it, or putting down women for wanting more....not manly....and that will make ya less attractive, no doubt!
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The US population is growing and is projected to continue to keep on growing.

    Here's where you change your tune from whining about birth rates to whining about the racial composition of the population
    There are growing birth rates as well as a shrinking middle class. Any idea why?

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    My god, the suffering. The victimhood. The blood. The carnage. The ceaseless oppressions.

    What the femis must be going through in their daily lives. I can't imagine that scale of human misery. I mean, we've got women in the Third World who are starving to death and those living in Sharia ****holes the world over, who are routinely beaten to death on the street if their burkas slip a few centimetres. But feminazis living in developed, First World, Liberal democracies who enjoy every last legal, educational and financial opportunity that men do? I mean....wow. Those aforementioned women don't know how good they have it. They're in Heaven compared to our own home grown maidens. At least they're not made to suffer the savage brutalities of....I don't know....something bad.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    My god, the suffering. The victimhood. The blood. The carnage. The ceaseless oppressions.

    What the femis must be going through in their daily lives. I can't imagine that scale of human misery. I mean, we've got women in the Third World who are starving to death and those living in Sharia ****holes the world over, who are routinely beaten to death on the street if their burkas slip a few centimetres. But feminazis living in developed, First World, Liberal democracies who enjoy every last legal, educational and financial opportunity that men do? I mean....wow. Those aforementioned women don't know how good they have it. They're in Heaven compared to our own home grown maidens. At least they're not made to suffer the savage brutalities of....I don't know....something bad.
    I'm quite happy women in America 'have it good' but what I find deplorable about the organized women's groups is they don't pay any attention, by and large, to those third world women who suffer the beatings, rapes, child marriage, honor killings, stonings, etc. as much as they argue, for example, taxpayer funded contraception. It's difficult to take them very seriously.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm quite happy women in America 'have it good' but what I find deplorable about the organized women's groups is they don't pay any attention, by and large, to those third world women who suffer the beatings, rapes, child marriage, honor killings, stonings, etc. as much as they argue, for example, taxpayer funded contraception. It's difficult to take them very seriously.
    Whereas I don't even make the attempt, that being an impossibility. They speak in terms of 'women' as if they actually give a **** about them, while claiming to be fighting for 'rights' they already have. Thankfully, only a fringe cult of women will ever claim feminazism. They're a joke on the very cusp of extinction.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm quite happy women in America 'have it good' but what I find deplorable about the organized women's groups is they don't pay any attention, by and large, to those third world women who suffer the beatings, rapes, child marriage, honor killings, stonings, etc. as much as they argue, for example, taxpayer funded contraception. It's difficult to take them very seriously.
    Furthermore they don't support or include any women who are not leftwing, feminist extremists. Any conservative woman who presumes to aspire to elected office or other powers can pretty well expect to be brutally savaged by the left, including those feminist extremists. Let a Sandra Fluke be alluded to as a whore for wanting others to pay for her ability to have sex and the feminists descend in loud, persistent, and furious rage at the her accuser. Let a television host say something far worse about Sarah Palin and the feminists are quiet as church mice.

    I myself am a strong feminist in that I don't think women should ever be shut out of opportunity for which they are fully qualified and, if they make themselves as valuable to the employer as a male employee they deserve the same wages, benefits, and opportunities as the male employee. But because I can see how a woman juggling a family and a career might not be as valuable as an unemcumbered male employee and, while it is a noble thing to do, I don't think an employer should be FORCED to accommodate her juggling act, I am considered an eeeeeeeevul conservative, misogynistic, anti-women rights, etc. etc. etc. And lordy, you can't imagine the abuse I've taken because I think the man should be head of the household. I also appreciate a man opening the car door for me, giving up his seat so that I can sit, and other niceties that made the world a more pleasant place.

    And I have been happily married, to the same guy, for more years than most of you are probably old, have raised a family, have had an interesting working life, and know that you can be a feminist while really appreciating men as necessary. I even like most of them.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm quite happy women in America 'have it good' but what I find deplorable about the organized women's groups is they don't pay any attention, by and large, to those third world women who suffer the beatings, rapes, child marriage, honor killings, stonings, etc. as much as they argue, for example, taxpayer funded contraception. It's difficult to take them very seriously.
    Dont think it's the women's organizations which are ignoring the problem, but someone is

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Furthermore they don't support or include any women who are not leftwing, feminist extremists. Any conservative woman who presumes to aspire to elected office or other powers can pretty well expect to be brutally savaged by the left, including those feminist extremists. Let a Sandra Fluke be alluded to as a whore for wanting others to pay for her ability to have sex and the feminists descend in loud, persistent, and furious rage at the her accuser. Let a television host say something far worse about Sarah Palin and the feminists are quiet as church mice.

    I myself am a strong feminist in that I don't think women should ever be shut out of opportunity for which they are fully qualified and, if they make themselves as valuable to the employer as a male employee they deserve the same wages, benefits, and opportunities as the male employee. But because I can see how a woman juggling a family and a career might not be as valuable as an unemcumbered male employee and, while it is a noble thing to do, I don't think an employer should be FORCED to accommodate her juggling act, I am considered an eeeeeeeevul conservative, misogynistic, anti-women rights, etc. etc. etc. And lordy, you can't imagine the abuse I've taken because I think the man should be head of the household. I also appreciate a man opening the car door for me, giving up his seat so that I can sit, and other niceties that made the world a more pleasant place.

    And I have been happily married, to the same guy, for more years than most of you are probably old, have raised a family, have had an interesting working life, and know that you can be a feminist while really appreciating men as necessary. I even like most of them.
    You're spot on, AlbqOwl. We can see that by the personal attacks leveled against Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann, for example, and they spoke out against the women who were the objects of Bill Clinton's lecherous eye. In fact it was a law of power in the workplace, which Clinton passed, which feminists supported, that gave rise to his problems.

    And of course professional feminists were never proud that Margaret Thatcher was the first Prime Minister of Great Britain. Their motives, as is this more recent 'war on women', were very clear way back then. And this 'war on women' was most obvious in the cases of Palin and Bachmann.

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