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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So it's their own fault then. Of course it is. As Gina said...if that's where you look for girls (bars, clubs) dont be surprised by the kind of girls you find.

    And what was implied in my post is that all you have to do is go out and DO something and you can meet people. And they'll know people. And you have a good chance of meeting someone you actually have something in common with. Why waste time *trolling?* Go DO something for the sake of doing it and see what happens. You dont have to DO something only for the purpose of sex or relationships.

    Does this really have to be explained? And if it does...like I said....it's the guy's or woman's responsibility if they cant manage their romantic lives. These arent secrets!
    I'm sorry, but you're simply out of touch with modern reality on this subject. The bar and club scene is the established standard for under 30 gender interaction in our current culture.

    This is the case largely due to the fact that younger generations of men and women alike have been, by and large, conditioned not to take relationships particularly seriously. In many cases, as a matter of fact, they barely even view them as being necessary in the first place.

    While it certainly isn't impossible to meet people who are more serious in this regard (if you have the economic means to actually attract their interest), you've basically got to bend over backwards to find them. They are, as I said before, the exception, not the rule.

    You're generally not going to stumble upon them by "happy accident" as such.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    This is a general question which riffs off your observation. In contemporary society men are still bound to certain attitudes towards women, things they can't do to women which they can do to men, like arguing and getting in someone's face, watching our language, watching sexual innuendo, etc. There is a whole code that still exists which binds men to treat women in certain ways.

    What is the counterpart code which binds all women to treat men in certain ways? What courtesies do women grant to men that they don't grant to other women?

    Not women granting to men, but *society* granting to men. Like men who are promiscuous are lauded as 'real men' and women are sluts. Men can be outspoken in a business meeting, but women are bitches. Men working outside the home are breadwinners, women are selfish and 'want to have it all.'

    There are a million double standards out there that bend over backwards for men.

    (And btw, there are also loads of those 'courtesies' that women DO accord men but because of their egos, we make them unobtrusive. Like not interfering when men want to get into a fight, even tho we know our man will probably lose because it's better he lose a fight than lose face. We 'allow' men to think alot of things to protect their egos, even to the point of letting them help us when we dont even need help.)
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    So because you have chosen to stop trying to date, you feel there is a groundswell of other guys like yourself. Now I see. Having sons in your demographic, my personal experience with them, indicates otherwise. When I include my daughter's male friends, co-workers and acquaintances, the same can be said.
    You apparently have a pretty narrow window on the world. Don't take that as an insult because most people are like this. Our social worlds are very heavily restricted into fairly narrow categories. For instance, most couples with an IQ of 115 don't really have any IQ 85 people in their social world. The gaps between them are too large to bridge and there is less in common upon which to base a friendship.

    Your daughters interact with young men, that's no surprise, but it doesn't tell us anything, nor does it tell you anything, to observe this fact. What you're not observing is the young men that your daughters don't want to have anything to do with, young men like these guys - The New York Times:

    North Carolina, with a student body that is nearly 60 percent female, is just one of many large universities that at times feel eerily like women’s colleges. . .

    Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

    Needless to say, this puts guys in a position to play the field, and tends to mean that even the ones willing to make a commitment come with storied romantic histories. Rachel Sasser, a senior history major at the table, said that before she and her boyfriend started dating, he had “hooked up with a least five of my friends in my sorority — that I know of.” . . .

    “It’s awesome being a guy,” admitted Garret Jones, another North Carolina senior, but he also lamented a culture that fostered hook-ups over relationships. This year, he said, he finally found a serious girlfriend.

    Indeed, there are a fair number of Mr. Lonelyhearts on campus. “Even though there’s this huge imbalance between the sexes, it still doesn’t change the fact of guys sitting around, bemoaning their single status,” said Patrick Hooper, a Georgia senior. “It’s the same as high school, but the women are even more enchanting and beautiful.”

    Think about that. Women are bemoaning the gender imbalance 60:40 and they're still cutting out about half of the guys on campus as not being date-worth, so now the imbalance grows to 60:20, a 3:1 ratio. When your daughter introduces you to her male friends, it's a pretty good bet that her male friends are not drawn from the pool of men near the bottom of the totem pole. You don't get to see them. Imagine how much it burns for these guys, a sea of women and the women are all setting their sights on the top guys, not just the girls who are 10s being interested in men who are 10s, but even the 6s are setting out on getting the 10s. Read the article because I didn't quote the parts about what these women put up with in terms of cheating from their men in order to keep a hold of their guys. They'd rather be walked all over than sink into the gutter and pair up in a 5 to 5 or a 7 to 7 or a 3 to 3 relationship.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'm sorry, but you're simply out of touch with modern reality on this subject. The bar and club scene is the established standard for under 30 gender interaction in our current culture.

    This is the case largely due to the fact that younger generations of men and women alike have been conditioned not to take relationships particularly seriously, or even really view them as being necessary, in the first place.

    While it certainly isn't impossible to meet people who are more serious in this regard (if you have the economic means to actually attract their interest), you've basically got to bend over backwards to find them. They are, as I said before, the exception, not the rule.

    You're generally not going to stumble upon them by accident as such.
    Who cares what the standard is? If it doesnt work...how stupid are you all? We all did that in my earlier days too, it's not new. DIdnt really work all that well...met lots of guys, most not worth much. So it's not 'this generation.' That's a dumb excuse and really disrespects them all.

    And yet there is whining about having to bend over backwards to find a woman?????

    It's not 'accidental' if you actually have a life and go out and do things with other people.

    There are a million ways to meet people and it's not a secret. If 'that generation' CHOOSES to rely on a method that doesnt work...good, maybe they wont reproduce.

    Edit: My girlfriend just retired to FL. She's a runner...costs her sneakers. She joined a running group...met lots of people and has had some dates. Get over the excuses...has nothing to do with money once you know someone thru a group or organization and arent just a body in a bar. Money matters alot less when you actually know the person. You are so full of excuses it's pathetic.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Men are not bound by that "code", any more than woman are bound to respect men. Society has, as it always does, changed with time.
    I should inform my human resource officer to stop booking those mind numbing sexual harassment workshops then. If I can be as free in my use of language with women as I can with men, then the need for all of these codes can't be defended.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You're the outlier here so please spare us the moral superiority schtick. This cheap peacocking of yours is tiring to read. Here's the deal:

    White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively. These three types of women only respond well to white men. More significantly, these groups’ reply rates to non-whites is terrible. Asian women write back non-white males at 21.9%, Hispanic women at 22.9%, and white women at 23.0%. It’s here where things get interesting, for white women in particular. If you look at the match-by-race table before this one, the “should-look-like” one, you see that white women have an above-average compatibility with almost every group. Yet they only reply well to guys who look like them.
    what moral schtick? I asked him a question...but my, you seem touchy about it. I wonder why that is?

    As for your dating service stats?

    Lol...well, you stick with what 'works' for you. And I will do the same.


    Good day.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Men are not bound by that "code", any more than woman are bound to respect men. Society has, as it always does, changed with time.
    As a man I know otherwise.

    This unwritten "code" has, does, and always will exist, because the sexes are different. As the sex more capable of physical violence society expects us to show more restraint.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As a man I know otherwise.

    This unwritten "code" has, does, and always will exist, because the sexes are different. As the sex more capable of physical violence society expects us to show more restraint.
    It may exist but by no means do all men adhere to it. It is not enforceable nor are there attempts to do so

    Hence the great volume of domestic abuses and lack of overall chivalrous behavior in public (not that I expect that but it's certainly not highly visible)
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    lack of overall chivalrous behavior in public
    Um, chivalry was a system which imposed obligations upon men and women. It wasn't only a one way street of obligations that men had towards women.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Um, chivalry was a system which imposed obligations upon men and women. It wasn't only a one way street of obligations that men had towards women.
    It was a casual use of the term and I dont see it for either gender....and as I said...I dont expect it.

    You dont have anything worthwhile to add other than that?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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