The idea that any society's culture would become so inherently self-centered and dysfunctional that it would run the risk of extinction not just because its members had lost interest in family, but human intimacy in general, is absolutely outlandish. Nevertheless, it has happened all the same.
There is really nothing to say that it could not happen somewhere else.
As I've pointed out, most of the same elements which lead Japan to its current state of affairs are present here as well. It's really anyone's guess where we might ultimately end up; especially as our culture continues to trend away from committed relationships and towards technology which renders human contact in many cases unnecessary in the first place.
Not necessarily. Modern men can be guilty of the same sort of short-sighted and selfish thinking being described in this thread as well as women. As a matter of fact, they are often worse.You didn't catch the sarcasm in my comment, so you obviously believe women pursuing the same career track at men, are selfish, but men are not.
However, it cannot be denied that women are ultimately the "gate keepers" of sex and reproduction. Having them "go on strike," so to speak, ultimately causes far more harm for society in general than men doing the same.
Sadly enough, "going on strike" is pretty much exactly what many women in Japan, and the rest of the "post-feminist" world have done. Japan is currently in the process of falling apart because of this, and, arguably, we're not faring much better.
That remains to be seen. Given what can be observed taking place in Japan and many parts of Europe even as we speak, I sincerely doubt that the transition will be so rosy as you might like to believe.That portion of the population will be reduced by attrition and the wheel will turn and the population from the lower economic rungs will climb up. Such is life. It's not a national emergency.
Basically all of our population growth at the present moment is being fueled by "low income" demographics, who tend to lack much in the way of social mobility and overwhelmingly rely upon government assistance to get by. They also tend to pass on poverty and dependency from generation to generation like an inheritable disease.
If they come to outnumber the people in this country who actually produce the revenue used to support them, the system might very well collapse in on itself.
The kind of men mentioned in the OP.We've dispensed with Japan, so what kind of men in the OP?
Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters
An entirely new breed of "slacker" men have developed out of the post-sexual revolution and post-feminist world for which there is no historical precedent.
Again, with Japan serving as the prime example here, they have done so largely in reaction to the changes which have taken place in women's behavior.
Many men feel less pressure to fill a given "masculine" role, so they are choosing not to do so.
Why do I sense an implied put down of her life choices before the career in question here?That's terrific that your mom has a career now.
Is a career really necessary for a woman, or anyone, really, to define their role in the world? Is motherhood not capable of being considered a "career?"
To the contrary, many female CEOs actually follow this same trajectory; not really hitting the "big time" until their children are basically grown.But she and they, put their careers second. Men do not have to ever consider that. In many professional fields, time off to have children negatively effects a woman's earning power and trajectory.
Get pregnant at 25 if you want a high-powered career
Why should women necessarily have to follow the same trajectory as men?
They're really not built for the same role. Trying to force them into it often does more harm than good.
My mother actually went so far as to tell me that her view on the matter was essentially, "You can go to work any time, but you only have so many years to have children."
Frankly, I think this is a good way to look at it. Far too many women put marriage and childrearing off thinking that they'll "get around to it eventually," and never actually do.
Many of these women wind up being rather unhappy in the long run.
The Grief of Childlessness
It might even play a role in the steady increase in suicide rates that has been observed among middle aged women (white women in particular) in recent decades as well.
I'm sorry, but as long as women are the only members of the human species capable of producing children, our society is going to need them to do so. Quite frankly, we probably need them to fill that role a lot more than we need them to work.These are the women we are discussing. Something men never have to be concerned with. So, here we are again, women have to sacrifice and be scorned as not holding up their end of society.
Thankfully, the decision doesn't have to be binary. Women are fully capable of doing both or neither if they should so choose.
However, the fact of the matter still stands. Without women filling their biological role, the whole system is basically doomed to implode in on itself.
Things are what they are. For every reaction, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Modern notions of female "empowerment" (when pursued within a Western style feminist framework, at least) can be observed to have played a direct role in leading men to eschew their own traditional roles. Many men simply don't feel that traditionally "masculine" virtues are necessary anymore, so they have opted for self-indulgent extended adolescence instead.
Again, we can already see how destructive this sort of trend can ultimately be by looking at what has already taken place in many other parts of the world.
Bars and clubs are, for all intents and purposes, the "default" mode of inter-gender interaction for the current generation. The online dating scene is a popular alternative, but even it tends to be far more focused on "screwing around" than serious relationship building when it comes to youth demographics.Though I'm skeptical this sexual marketplace exists when men are looking outside of bars and clubs for a marriageable woman.
The days of meeting women "at church" or some other such venue are by and large over for most of our society. Such things have become the exception, not the rule.