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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And yet you wont quote it and you wont answer it. Pretty funny.
    Hmmm? What did you ask me to quote and answer again? I must have tuned you out on accident.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh please, as soon as she saw that men were complaining she just assumed it was a desire to make women their inferiors. Lursa's comment was sexist, and frankly, I have seen Lursa be sexist on this forum plenty of times.
    Not at all. I was just pointing out a blatant hypocrisy (which actually indicated *equality*)....you just didnt like it.

    In a thread that developed into (frequently) being about women disrespecting men...I just asked how many men had lied to get sex?
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    It would seem a portion of their problems come from trying to force the old model that Americans have long since shrugged off. If it were more acceptable for a woman to have a family AND work, they might not be headed down this path and in reading further, it there are other societal customs and issues peculiar to Japan. I cannot copy and paste more (Fair Use) but to paraphrase, the expectations placed on married couples to buy property (a stress directly placed on men because working mothers are scandalous) and the uncertain demands of in-laws is freaking out men. When they do marry, men will work 20 hours a day and so are on their own a great deal. Sangha had this right in his earlier post. Japan's problems are economic and that is driving people to re-evaluate marriage.
    Actually, the problem is mainly two-fold:

    One part *is* economic. The other part is, completely contrary to what Gath has argued, that Japanese young adults are clinging too tenaciously to traditional values (wife stays home, husband provides, no pre-marital sex) which are inappropriate given their economic situation.

    Another problem is their lack of immigration
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Hmmm? What did you ask me to quote and answer again? I must have tuned you out on accident.
    I know, my dogs have selective 'hearing' like that too
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Not at all. I was just pointing out a blatant hypocrisy (which actually indicated *equality*)....you just didnt like it.

    In a thread that developed into (frequently) being about women disrespecting men...I just asked how many men had lied to get sex?
    Sure...I believe that was your intent.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, the problem is mainly two-fold:

    One part *is* economic. The other part is, completely contrary to what Gath has argued, that Japanese young adults are clinging too tenaciously to traditional values (wife stays home, husband provides, no pre-marital sex) which are inappropriate given their economic situation.

    Another problem is their lack of immigration
    I have seen absolutely no evidence to support this conclusion other than your own assertions. Basically every other source which has been presented on the subject (which include actual testimony from young Japanese people themselves, no less) says that the major problem is that they do not want to be burdened with the expectations of traditional marriage in the first place.

    They view it as being too "troublesome" to work, and would rather go it alone.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    To this point, she pretty much admitted flat out that when she read the description of the book when she saw the words marriage and kids she had a preconceived notion that men were desiring to make women their inferiors and that the book was expressing this desire. Where would that little preconceived notion come from you think and why would someone have it? Isn't it a bit interesting that she couldn't help herself to express it? Lursa is a sexist, and she can deny it all she wants but I have plenty of evidence towards it.
    Plenty of men wish they could consider women submissive and inferior to them....that's not news. I could name a couple in this thread that seem exactly like that. Some men 'need' that. I didnt need the blurb of the book to know that.

    And as for sexist....I am more than happy to come down on my sisters anytime...and I do. It's just not a topic in this thread. I will not defend the ones that make us all look bad and speak out about it here AND in real life. You're just too biased to have noticed. No worries, I dont really care.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's cute how outraged you still are. I didnt denigrate the book or even dismiss it. Quite the defensive post there.^^^^
    I was never outraged at all. You're a sexist that just so happens to like making sexist conclusions on the contents of books you never read. Both are pretty common.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It would take an educated male populace to realize that women are depreciable assets.
    Men are already fully aware of that. Look how many dump their wives for younger models?

    It's kind of silly to call women shallow because they want successful men when the same generalization works out that men only care about how women look. Two sides of the same coin. I see people only calling out the women on it in this threat tho (not you.)
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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