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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    What I'm saying is that women's liberation is not like a force of nature, like the tide coming in. It's the creation of people. It's a choice. It's not of nature.



    It's not a matter of how things SHOULD be, it's a matter of how things ARE. Men and women FEEL what they feel, they don't feel what a philosophy instructs them to feel. You can't train yourself to be happy if you're sad.



    These men didn't divorce their wives BECAUSE the man earned more than the woman and this made the men respect the woman less.

    Look upthread, someone posted a link to the NYT about the sex lives of married couples where the men who were more egalitarian had a less frequent sex life than the men who were following a more traditional male role within a marriage. Feminists women SHOULD be more attracted to the egalitarian men because that's what their philosophy suggests is desirable. Instead the feminist women WERE more attracted to the more traditional male behavior and rewarded these men with more sex.
    So treating woman as less then equal means that men get more 'rewarded' with sex?

    What kind of sex?

    I have been with both types of women...and I found sex with a woman who wanted to 'do-whatever-I-wanted' was great at first, but got boring real quick...it was like being with an expensive escort.
    Whereas the more discriminating type I found to be far more imaginative and emotional and (generally) intelligent. The sex was far more equal and rewarding.

    Sure, for the chauvinist who likes his women to do what he wants, you are right. Women that like being dominated/subservient will (IMO) tend to 'spread their legs' more often and without question. They will lay there and require less from the man. And they will work harder to please their guy. Sounds empty and useless to me.

    Also; intelligent, strong, independent women generally do not go for the 'subservient to man' routine. They might dabble in it every now and then. But long term? I doubt it...not for most of them.
    The type that wants to be 'controlled' generally are less intelligent and/or less confident and/or less independent.
    Those type do not interest me for long...I want an equal...not a sex robot that cooks (though there are times when I am feeling more 'base' that the latter holds an appeal...but never for long).


    And guys who read this - please save your endless stories of fantastic sex with incredible women who do whatever you please (or from women who say pleasing their men is the best kind of sex)...it means NOTHING to me.
    I have known LOTS and LOTS of guys who thought their women loved their sex life...only to find out that they actually did not but were too afraid/intimidated/ignorant to say what they really felt...EVEN when the guy asked them straight up.
    Often times (with exceptions), women that claim up and down that they love the man being in charge ALL the time, really only think that because they believe that is how they are supposed to feel...not how they actually feel.


    So yes guys that want a woman they can order about...you should probably go to another country besides America to find her. Try someplace where women still have few rights and are taught to look up to and always respect their men.

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    But be careful, you may get more then you bargained for.
    Often times, when those women come to America and see that they actually can be equal...they quickly tire of the 'old' ways and desire a taste of feeling equal...as they should.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, there is not widespread "disrespect towards men" in this country. The premise is just ridiculous.
    The premise in the OP is the usual right wing strategy of the oppressor time and time again, claiming to be the one who is oppressed! This is the mentality of men who are selfish, self-absorbed, self-centered, and just want to focus on their own feelings of inadequacy, rejection and resentment. English translation: American women (and other western women) won't just shut up and take whatever crap I want to dish out, so I need some foreign woman, who comes from the Orient, the Middle East or maybe the Philippines - where women are really treated like crap...and by comparison, I'll look like a knight in shining armor!
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yeah, there is not widespread "disrespect towards men" in this country. The premise is just ridiculous.
    Well, if you're talking about a lot of radical feminists there certainly is. They hate men with a passion and are quite open about it.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    The OP is one of the most ridiculous and insanely idiotic posts I've seen in a while. Just dumb.

    Poor pitiful American men are being mistreated and bullied?????????????

    We're all being oppressed?????

    The American womenz are out to get us????????


    What a god damned joke.

    This thread isn't serious is it? Conspiracy theory section at best for this trash....

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    The OP is one of the most ridiculous and insanely idiotic posts I've seen in a while. Just dumb.

    Poor pitiful American men are being mistreated and bullied?????????????

    We're all being oppressed?????

    The American womenz are out to get us????????


    What a god damned joke.

    This thread isn't serious is it? Conspiracy theory section at best for this trash....
    Well, calling it 'insanely idiotic' is too harsh, IMO.

    But I agree with just about everything else you typed.

    This thread is probably going to bring out a lot if men who crave the 'good ole days' when 'men were men and fish were fish'.

    You know...guys that watch Mad Men and long for those times (me - I can't watch that show...it's just too archaic for me...but each to their own).
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Some men DO want a woman they can control, and they don't want a woman who can think for herself. I think this is one reason why some conservative men seem to be "interested" in young teen girls or want to go "get a woman" from another country because they are under the impression she will be more submissive.
    I think that was a direct hit.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Well, calling it 'insanely idiotic' is too harsh, IMO.
    The OP makes it sound like there's a nation-wide, active conspiracy by women to attack all men.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    The OP makes it sound like there's a nation-wide, active conspiracy by women to attack all men.
    Hey, I agree the OP is nonsense.

    But I just happen to think calling people's ideas 'insanely idiotic' is not 'nice'.

    He is saying what he (apparently) believes. I don't think it's the product if insanity...just 'misguidedness'.

    Besides...if the mods won't let me even say 'have a nice day' because they say it is an insult or something negative (true story)...then you should not be able to call someone's thoughts 'insanely idiotic'.


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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Of course I would marry an American woman. What sort of a stupid question is that?

    I'd also marry a Frenchwoman, a Briton, an Arab, a Chinese, an African, a Brazilian... It's all about the person. Their nationality has nothing to do with it.

    I will note, though, that a shocking amount of people in this thread are saying 'no' on the grounds of American women being less and less traditional. To that, I ask: What sort of backwoods troglodyte wants a servant instead of a friend and lover? What is wrong with you people?

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Yup, being raped and bred to death and sold like livestock sounds great.

    Although most men didn't get a great deal either. Patriarchy also helps justify treating non-wealthy men as essentially cannon fodder.

    The only people who truly benefitted from patriarchy are wealthy men, but to claim women had some kind of cushy life shows a complete ignorance of history, and even modern reality. Some of those unfortunate women who lived under stronger patriarchies, or still do, are still alive, you know.
    That's right! And like all class-based systems, the aristocrats or oligarchs or whoever the hell the rich are who wield power, they attempt to maintain the loyalty of their base by keeping them focused on oppressing other groups further down in the pecking order...blacks, latinos, non-christians....and women.

    Some day I'll have to get around to starting up a thread on patriarchy...as I'm noticing that everyone from feminists to misogynists seems to think that some sort of patriarchy is the starting point for human culture and civilization...even though male-dominated societies that are patrilineal and patrilocal, didn't even exist until less than 6000 years ago. It's not behaviour that's hardwired into us, and the levels of aggression and destruction that have resulted, should tell us that it has to end and be replaced by more equitable, peaceful societies, or the human race will be extinct in a few more generations.
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