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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Hmmm. Not sure I understand this post.
    Yes you do, it's pretty self-explanatory.

    The disrespect and cuckoldry of women has been a badge of honor for men for millenia....I'd agree it's wrong...but maybe it's learning by example?
    Two wrongs don't make a right nor do they amount to "equality." Women benefited greatly from the patriarch.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Johnson View Post
    Yes you do, it's pretty self-explanatory.


    Two wrongs don't make a right nor do they amount to "equality." Women benefited greatly from the patriarch.
    Yup, being raped and bred to death and sold like livestock sounds great.

    Although most men didn't get a great deal either. Patriarchy also helps justify treating non-wealthy men as essentially cannon fodder.

    The only people who truly benefitted from patriarchy are wealthy men, but to claim women had some kind of cushy life shows a complete ignorance of history, and even modern reality. Some of those unfortunate women who lived under stronger patriarchies, or still do, are still alive, you know.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Johnson View Post
    Yes you do, it's pretty self-explanatory.



    Two wrongs don't make a right nor do they amount to "equality." Women benefited greatly from the patriarch.
    I guess that my perception of your post was correct then.

    I never said 'two wrongs make a right." You even quoted where I said it's wrong. But it seems you admit that men set the bar for women to observe and emulate.

    And men benefited equally from the matriarch.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

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    Well... It is Germanic in origin.

    I've seen this video half a dozen times, and it still never ceases to crack me up.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That certainly extends past what I said, but I will bite anyway. Both love and respect have to be earned, by both genders. What makes it somewhat easier is that there is some inertia in those things. Once that love and respect is developed, it will tend to resist changes to that state unless the person does something actively to change it. Usually, though I do suppose neglect would do it too. Both are necessary for both partners in any romantic relationship.
    OK, I don't disagree with anything that you've written. Maybe. The earning of love and respect usually occurs, or so I believe, as the relationship develops. This is really the fuel that propels the relationship to deeper commitment levels. When it comes time for the vows, the man's love for his bride should be focused on who she is and not on the things she says or does and the woman should be respecting her groom for the man he is. When love and respect die, then a marriage hollows out.

    Now what I see quite a bit in the world around me is women not respecting their men. I'm not even talking about TV culture, I'm talking about bad-mouthing him to girlfriends, berating him like he's an idiot at dinner parties or in the grocery store. Eye rolling when he says something that she disagrees with. These men are diminished in the eyes of their beloved. I don't think it's a stretch to claim that if a man sees that his woman respects him, then he feels 10 ft tall and is ready to take on the world. So your comment about needing to earn respect looked to me like it was speaking to the belief many women seem to hold, as per their revealed behaviors, that their husbands actually do need to constantly work at jumping through the hoops to do things such that their wives maintain their respect for them.

    The counterpart here is men neglecting their wives, taking them for granted, not conveying the love that he should have in his heart. No wife ever finds pleasure in telling her husband "tell me you love me." Right? A wife who isn't feeling the love is not going to be a content woman in that marriage.

    I'm not a religious man, but I do think that these ancient dudes out in Near East who wrote the Bible got some things right when they spoke of the man being the head of the household. This really strokes a man's ego because it implies that there is a level of respect that the wife feels for him. He, in turn, cherishes his wife, protects her, is faithful to her. This speaks to complementary needs/desires that often exist in marriages.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    If given the chance to re-marry would you marry (another) American woman?

    Increasingly the answer is "no".

    Men are increasingly disrespected by American women. They face extreme economic and social disadvantages in family law that makes it possible for a wife to divorce them and take most of what they have including their children for any reason or no reason. They are constantly told that they are worthless and stupid. Disrespect for men has become standard practice. Men are disrespected by their wives – they’re disrespected publicly, they’re disrespected privately, they’re disrespected and then told that they have no right to be upset about it because they aren’t worthy of respect in the first place.

    Disrespect of men is a joke to Americans now.

    The result has been that men are increasingly dropping out of society. They don't marry, they don't go to college because they see no reason to break their humps to get ready to provide for a family -- they aren't going to be having a family.

    Lots has been written about this phenomena, most of it in the strain of "why is it that men are so childish now." But men are not dropping out because of arrested development. They are acting rationally in response to myriad laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's only when people rush to the altar and don't take the time to get to know their prospective mate. If you haven't known them for at least 5 years, you're doing it too fast.
    I think 5 years is a bit extreme. I married my wife after 6 months of knowing her and we've been married for 7 years now, relationship never been better. It's either going to work or it won't, I don't think a whole lot of time is going to make a difference in most cases.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Yes, I would. But it's little too late for that now. May be in my next life.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    If I would have the option to re-marry I see no reason not to marry an American woman. In the condition though that we live here where these gender bias laws have no effect, where nagging is not taken seriously (or easily controlled), where whatever she says disrespectfully is not taken seriously, where she will watch for the family and like it, while I go out and work my back off to provide for the family. Simple and the natural way like it always was.

    Oh, and divorce is not an option neither. Thought I mention this little detail here also .

    If I catch her whoring around, stealing goods from the house, or disrespecting me and my friends and relatives (while respecting hers) then by the Albanian code I have the right to shoot her with the bullet her own father gave to me. So, it is till death does us apart alright .
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Btw, the book in the OP is a really good book. It reflected perfectly on what I have been seeing from society. I definitely recommend it to anyone interested in the topic. Of course, it's funny how the behavior in this thread is exactly what men have been getting for bringing it up. lol.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    -- Oh, and divorce is not an option neither. Thought I mention this little detail here also .

    If I catch her whoring around, stealing goods from the house, or disrespecting me and my friends and relatives (while respecting hers) then by the Albanian code I have the right to shoot her with the bullet her own father gave to me. So, it is till death does us apart alright .
    Wow.

    Divorce not available in Albania then?

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Many years of experience with women, tells me, that women nationality does not matter.
    I think in modern free relationships, this is very true - you don't marry or choose your partner by nationality.

    Excepting Albanian women though...

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