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Thread: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    That's what dry wall is for.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    That's what dry wall is for.
    A couple of things.

    1. Repairing dry wall is a pain in the ass.
    2. Studs are every 16-24 inches apart. You will want to avoid those. The rule is that a loading bearing wall has them every 16 inches apart while a unload bearing wall has them every 24 inches apart.
    3. Hitting a stud will break your hand easily.
    4. If the house has been remodeled forget the above rule. Chances are studs are going to be random in areas that have been remodeled.

    Good luck.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    A couple of things.

    1. Repairing dry wall is a pain in the ass.
    2. Studs are every 16-24 inches apart. You will want to avoid those. The rule is that a loading bearing wall has them every 16 inches apart while a unload bearing wall has them every 24 inches apart.
    3. Hitting a stud will break your hand easily.
    4. If the house has been remodeled forget the above rule. Chances are studs are going to be random in areas that have been remodeled.

    Good luck.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    That is a very weird way of looking at the dissolution of weddings (aka divorces). While the legal arbitration might be "no fault" but in most divorces there are grounds and reasons for that marriage to break up.
    There don't need to be any reasons given at all. All one has to do is simply say "irreconcile differences" and sign the dotted line and the marriage is over. I have seen my mother go thru 3 divorces, I know all about "irreconcile differences"...

    And women have the power? Yes, they have the power to give up their intimacy and who they want to fall in love with but that is purely down to men wanting sex and women wanting relationships more often than just sex. Men do the vast majority of initiating because they want to get their leg over, before they did that they too had the choice as to who they want to target, so don't cry me a river on that subject please because both make choices and act upon those choices. Sadly most men think with their loins and women with their brains. And the whole male to female mating dance is the same all over the western industrialized world.
    Men don't make the ultimate choice. Men generally try and fail.. For the VAST majority of men, their first choice of mate/partner rejects them. Men, naturally, want to find the most attractive partner they can attract, but many times, the person they are most attracted to is not attracted to them. And men do most if not almost all the initiating, so the selection of acceptable mates rests on the woman. More often then not, she gets her first choice, or really close to her first choice of mate. Where as men go thru a lot more rejection then women do. So women have the power in relationships. When men were the primary bread winners, and females needed men in order to provide them with security and a roof over their heads, the male/female dating "dance" was equlized by the fact that women had sexual power, and men had financial/security power. In today's dating world, men no longer hold this power due to the equal rights movement. Now there exists an inbalance as a result of there being no counterbalence to a womans sexual power. Women have not changed, they still expect men to do all the initiating and provide the majority of the income. It is know that women rarely marry men who make significantly less, where as men marry all the way up and down the socioeconomic scale. Women are still being choosey, still expecting the traditional dating methods and are still using their sexual power to choose the best mate for them.

    The whole problem is that female emancipation started slower in the US IMHO, in the Netherlands most people live in smaller and bigger towns and the process of emancipation of women and the re-education of men worked a lot quicker. This also has to do with the fact that some countries have truly separated the church/religious oppressive views from their government. And again, that too in part has to do with the vast landmass of the USA and the more rural living. In the Netherlands the catholic church too had it's claws into the province where I live some 40 years back but that has changed during that time.
    I don't think it started slower, I think it just started differently. In the US, the feminist/equal rights movement has quickly turned into a political/activist movement where as in most european/asian countries it has been more tame and less rhetorical. It has been agreed upon by all and the majority choose to enact laws, vs in the states it has been mostly women who have voted their own laws into place. Men have simply been trying to weather the storm sort to speak because any man that has ever tried standing up against the feminist movement to say "hey, thats not fair" has been steamrolled by feminists and their enablers (mostly testicleless men who put all women on a pedestal hoping it will get them somewhere) But that is changing quickly in places like Canada (where it is probably the worst) and also in places in North-eastern Europe.



    No, women know that marriage is a partnership. The thing is that most men think their part of that partnership is working outside of the house and then coming home and doing not a lot more after that, except of course demanding intimacy on a regular basis. All other things like house cleaning, child rearing, cooking etc. is down to the wife as well as putting out if said man wants to have sex. Today women have more power than before because they have emancipated but that is how it should be. In the end usually it is still men who rule the roost or try to push their way through in many relationships if women do not fight their ground. Men see power in the relationship is a right, women have to fight for that right.
    Women do most of the housework because they still demand a man that makes more money then they do. And to make more money then they do, a man must work more hours or take jobs further away from the home. As I said above, women have not changed their traditional wants in men. Where as men have changed drastically over the last 4-5 decades. And as I mentioned above, the law here in the US protects women a lot more then men when it comes to relationships, sex and divorce. Men have virtually no defense against a woman who wishes to end a relationship on false pretenses or wishes to destroy a mans life.

    And don't come with "in the US it is all different" because some things might be different but it is not like I am comparing the US with Pakistan or Indonesia. I am comparing the US with Europe and even though some things are different because of the size of the US, I think it has more to do with men grieving their loss of "power" because they now have to negotiate with their wives and most men are not that great at that.
    Men are able to negotiate with their wives prior to getting married.... a little... But in my expirience, and listening to my friends, the vast majority of them are afraid of their wives because they realize what their wives can do to them if they become even the least bit dissatisfied with the realationship. In today's dating environment, there is always a "john" hanging around in the background waiting for the relationship to break up so he can move in. Where as men, when they divorce, rarely have anyone to move on with. So it is generally much easier for a woman to break off a marriage then it is a for a man.

    Now I know the US is not like an episode of the Dr. Phil show but he does not write those books and does his shows purely for entertainment and money. Women need more than just sex in a while and money, they need a partner who engages in a whole host of things with them, from child rearing to running the house hold but also spiritually and intellectually engaging their partners.
    Dr. Phil is a sellout douche!
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I'm the same way as lizzie -- the pressure bomb. Happened maybe three times in the last ten years.

    Honestly, it's not that I think crying is "weak" or anything. It's just that I feel so sedated when I cry. It's like, "Goddamn it. So I'm gonna spend the next 10 minutes sitting here and crying and then I'm gonna be all tired and spend the rest of the night doing nothing? Really? *sigh*"

    Although I do cry more often than I explode, probably not more than once or twice a year, unless it's been a horrendously bad year.
    I'm not a cryer either. I think women cry too much and when done around me it makes me feel uncomfortable. I would never tell them that of course!

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I'm not a cryer either. I think women cry too much and when done around me it makes me feel uncomfortable. I would never tell them that of course!
    There is, IMO, no such thing as 'crying too much'.

    Crying is a physical manifestation of an emotional release...there is nothing wrong with it. Laughing is the same thing...yet few would ever say that people 'laugh too much'.

    In fact, to suppress one's strong emotions can cause all kinds of problems.

    Additionally, because of outdated viewpoints about the healthy release of emotions, it takes more 'guts' to cry then not to cry.

    So, as long as they are not crocodile tears, I say as long as people cry whenever they feel the need, then they are crying exactly the right amount.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    There is, IMO, no such thing as 'crying too much'.

    Crying is a physical manifestation of an emotional release...there is nothing wrong with it. Laughing is the same thing...yet few would ever say that people 'laugh too much'.

    In fact, to suppress one's strong emotions can cause all kinds of problems.

    Additionally, because of outdated viewpoints about the healthy release of emotions, it takes more 'guts' to cry then not to cry.

    So, as long as they are not crocodile tears, I say as long as people cry whenever they feel the need, then they are crying exactly the right amount.
    I gotta agree. What is crying too much exactly? We are so weird about emotions.

    Honestly, I wish I was a bit more of a crier than I am. I tend to put it off, simply because I think I have too much to get done. Sometimes I'm right, but usually I'm wrong.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I've gotta say. This is an almost entirely alien concept for me.

    If I'm going to cry about anything, somebody had better have just died.
    That is usually what my tears are reserved for- a separation or a death. The last time I cried, and it was not consciously associated with loss, was the last time my husband and I had a disagreement, and it felt like I was losing him, and in fact, I was, but I didn't know it at the time. It wasn't too long before his death, and although he didn't consciously know he was going to die, I am now convinced that he did know at some level, as he repeatedly made mention of it in passing for several months prior to his passing. I think he was trying to emotionally separate, and I didn't understand at the time, and he could not explain it.

    When I am angry, I can't usually bring myself to cry, although I wish I could. I tend to gravitate more toward the "numb" end of the spectrum, until I can effectively deal with the emotions, without doing something really stupid.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    There is, IMO, no such thing as 'crying too much'.

    Crying is a physical manifestation of an emotional release...there is nothing wrong with it. Laughing is the same thing...yet few would ever say that people 'laugh too much'.

    In fact, to suppress one's strong emotions can cause all kinds of problems.

    Additionally, because of outdated viewpoints about the healthy release of emotions, it takes more 'guts' to cry then not to cry.

    So, as long as they are not crocodile tears, I say as long as people cry whenever they feel the need, then they are crying exactly the right amount.
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