Check a person's passport? Who even carries a passport?
I know we just met, but if you would go home and produce your passport so I can verify your nationality that would be great because I am thinking about asking you out on a date.
However, not even the Church teaches that women should be subservient to men or necessarily have to be mothers (or even married, for that matter).
Do I think it is ultimately preferable for individuals and society in general to stick with the traditional model more often than they do not? Absolutely.
I do not believe, however, that other alternatives should not be available.
Going by that logic, couldn't the man in this scenario just as easily be described as being the woman's slave, sacrificing his freedom and leisure to provide her and her children with food, shelter, and clothing?Sometimes it is, especially when you are in a true "traditional" relationship. Women do not work or make their own money in such situations. They are maids and baby-delivering machines. The man works.
Even under the most strictly "traditional" of family structures, the exchange isn't quite so one sided as you are making out above. The woman might have to deliver the babies in question, but the man's got to provide for them.
That isn't exactly easy, or fun.
In any case, however, this is ultimately besides the point. The "traditional approach" is not set in stone anyway, nor should it be.
While many old fashioned families prefer that the mother stay home so that she can provide her children the best care possible, they do not have a problem with her working outside the home if it is necessary to get by, or if she desires to do so. Frankly, as I already pointed out, with modern technology, a person doesn't necessarily have to leave the house to earn money these days anyway.
You don't have to justify yourself to me, Chris.I've got no desire to the 50-year-old mother of a teenager. If I had a baby now, I would be 50 when that baby was 15. Normally people are becoming grandparents at that age in their lives.
It's not my decision what you do with your uterus. lol
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Yes, I agree that working and providing for a family isn't easy, and that is why it should be a choice, and people who choose not to (or cannot for whatever reason) follow traditional roles or to not have children shouldn't be looked down upon. That's not fair.
Just to make sure I have your a priori arguments right, are you suggesting that people should be excused from doing the right thing (assuming that having and taking care of a family is the right thing - which I agree is not true universally but for the sake of argument) if doing that right thing is difficult?Yes, I agree that working and providing for a family isn't easy, and that is why it should be a choice, and people who choose not to (or cannot for whatever reason) follow traditional roles or to not have children shouldn't be looked down upon. That's not fair.
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