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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post

    While our women are a lot more classically "feminine" than those from other regions, it would be a mistake to view them as being push overs because of this.
    As many a broken hearted country song can attest, they can be downright evil when they want to be.
    The bolded is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Traditional does not mean abused nor dominated or controlled. It means that a woman willingly takes on the role of wife and mother, and runs the household. My mom, and most of my aunts, plus my grandmothers did that. Not a single one of them is a woman I would consider weak. In fact, between my parents, I would consider my mother to be the stronger of the two, as far as outward appearances go. She has always been a very straightforward woman, who has done exactly what she wanted to do. Her devotion to my father and to her children was the guiding force in her life, but she never was subservient. She just loved my father to the degree that they were essentially an inseparable pair, and the feeling was mutual on my father's part. There was no power struggle. There was love and devotion to each other, and for each of them, one of their purposes in life, was to make the other happy.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Rational (female version), intelligent, femininely sexy, virile, and compassionate.

    If these aspects are met....I will spend the time to figure out the rest.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I think the idea is more that men and women "control" relationships in different ways.

    Men are more direct, straight forward, and prone to overt displays of power. Women, on the other hand, are subtle, passive-aggressive, and sometimes even manipulative in the power they exert.

    As long as it's not taken to extremes, there really isn't any problem with this per se. I don't have any problem with a woman "holding her own" in a relationship so long as she's not a harpy about it and is in some sense feminine.
    And some people don't feel the need to have "control" in a relationship at all and just like to let things progress and happen naturally without any predispositions as to how things are "supposed" to be.

    I just tend to not get on very well with women who favor a more masculine approach.
    What would THAT be?


    To be fair here, Chris, don't you work from home already, and weren't you working that job for at least a portion of the period of time when you were living with your ex, who worked outside of the house?

    That's basically a modified version of the "traditional model" which allows a woman to earn her own money while still being able to "play mother" for her children right there.

    In this regard, I think a lot of people tend to misunderstand what the "traditional model" actually is. (For persons other than Tigger, anyway) It's more of a general strategy than a set way of doing things.

    My mother, for instance, chose to stay home. However, it's hardly like she was locked in the house beholden to my father, or spent all of her time eating bonbons, cooking, and cleaning.

    Most of the time, she was teaching my siblings and I, planning field trips, or putting together curriculum for us to use. That basically was her "career" while we were growing up, and it was pretty much completely hers. Other than to provide an occasional lesson on some subject in which he was particularly knowledgeable at my mother's request, my father played little to no role in this whatsoever.
    I worked outside the house as well. I've done some waitressing, and also my transcription job used to be in an office building in Rhode Island. Then, they were bought out by this larger company for a poopload of money, so not really, there were plenty of times when I was outside of the house working too.


    I can certainly understand that.

    Ironically though, having children into one's thirties and forties seems to rapidly be becoming the "new normal" in our society, at least in middle and upper class demographics. Many "career women" aren't even having their first children until at least 35 these days.

    I don't know if that's a good idea, per se, but it is something we're seeing more and more.
    Yeah, I don't think so.

    How "controlling" a person happens to be really kind of depends upon their personality.

    My father and I are a lot alike in this regard, actually. We're both very opinionated in terms of how things should be done under ideal or theoretical circumstances, and both rather "dominant" in terms of personality, but we're far more easy going and laissez-faire when it comes to practical application.

    My father simply didn't care enough to try and "dictate" what anyone in the house did in absolute terms, much less enforce it day in and day out.

    He's was muuuuch too lazy for that.
    Well, I think it's only natural that people are going to have strong feelings about certain issues. That does not equate into being controlling though.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Rational (female version), .
    = Irrational.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And some people don't feel the need to have "control" in a relationship at all and just like to let things progress and happen naturally without any predispositions as to how things are "supposed" to be.
    Which is basically what I've been saying all along. A couple with a good relationship shouldn't even have to worry about these kinds of things.

    It should just sort of fall into place.

    That being said, however, it would be nave to assume that "power" and "control" are never being exerted in a relationship in at least some sense. Most of the time it simply happens to be consensual and more or less benign, so it's not really an issue.

    I worked outside the house as well. I've done some waitressing, and also my transcription job used to be in an office building in Rhode Island. Then, they were bought out by this larger company for a poopload of money, so not really, there were plenty of times when I was outside of the house working too.
    Sure. I was simply saying that it is possible to do things in such a way that the woman is able to be a fully available mother for her children and retain some degree of financial independence.

    It doesn't have to be an "either / or" kind of situation.

    Yeah, I don't think so.
    It's up to you, obviously.

    I was just saying that it is something that's become a lot more common in recent decades.

    Well, I think it's only natural that people are going to have strong feelings about certain issues. That does not equate into being controlling though.
    Of course.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    The bolded is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Traditional does not mean abused nor dominated or controlled. It means that a woman willingly takes on the role of wife and mother, and runs the household. My mom, and most of my aunts, plus my grandmothers did that. Not a single one of them is a woman I would consider weak. In fact, between my parents, I would consider my mother to be the stronger of the two, as far as outward appearances go. She has always been a very straightforward woman, who has done exactly what she wanted to do. Her devotion to my father and to her children was the guiding force in her life, but she never was subservient. She just loved my father to the degree that they were essentially an inseparable pair, and the feeling was mutual on my father's part. There was no power struggle. There was love and devotion to each other, and for each of them, one of their purposes in life, was to make the other happy.
    That's all I ever wanted in a relationship. My folks were high school sweethearts and while they have had their issues, they're still married despite everything.

    I often wished I hadn't rushed into marriage. ..but my children came from that. Them I value over everything. I got married with the intention of dying with that person. I was emotionally destroyed when that happened. Just...destroyed.

    Divorce isn't something my family is accustomed to. My younger sister has been married several times and myself just once.

    It's hard to open yourself up to that kind of devastation again. To invest yourself 110% and give all you've got when things go horribly wrong.

    I'm envious of people who have that kind of relationship you mention.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post

    It's hard to open yourself up to that kind of devastation again. To invest yourself 110% and give all you've got when things go horribly wrong.

    I'm envious of people who have that kind of relationship you mention.
    I am envious of it too. It is not easy to come by.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I have standards...
    I'm just confused as to why the standards require looking at a passport?
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Which is basically what I've been saying all along. A couple with a good relationship shouldn't even have to worry about these kinds of things.

    It should just sort of fall into place.

    That being said, however, it would be nave to assume that "power" and "control" are never being exerted in a relationship in at least some sense. Most of the time it simply happens to be consensual and more or less benign, so it's not really an issue.
    I don't know Gathomas, I have the feeling that you believe women have their "place" in society.

    Sure. I was simply saying that it is possible to do things in such a way that the woman is able to be a fully available mother for her children and retain some degree of financial independence.

    It doesn't have to be an "either / or" kind of situation.
    Sometimes it is, especially when you are in a true "traditional" relationship. Women do not work or make their own money in such situations. They are maids and baby-delivering machines. The man works.

    It's up to you, obviously.

    I was just saying that it is something that's become a lot more common in recent decades.
    I've got no desire to the 50-year-old mother of a teenager. If I had a baby now, I would be 50 when that baby was 15. Normally people are becoming grandparents at that age in their lives.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm just confused as to why the standards require looking at a passport?
    I think he's trying to a smarty pants.

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