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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, yes, a lot of times the male personality will be the more assertive. However, that is certainly not the case all of the time, and that it is becoming less and less "typical."
    I agree that "typical" is hard to quantify. I was simply saying that it is the arrangement you see most often.

    Pushy women might very be becoming a bit more common, but so is divorce.

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    I don't think it's working though!
    Like I said, I think trying to maintain a spotless household in the "leave it to beaver" style is frankly kind of a non-starter these days anyway. Not only is it an intrinsically thankless stressful job which often times requires holding things to unrealistic standards, but it simply isn't feasible with so many women working these days.

    Some degree of give and take is necessary.

    While there are some basic principles I won't compromise on, because I frankly think they work, I'm actually rather fluid with regard to day-to-day matters.

    If something needs doing, I'll do it (so long as I'm not the only one doing so). I grew up doing a lot of household chores anyway, so its nothing new to me. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh well, according to some, they would just be doing their "womanly" duties. If some guy is going to have ME under his thumb, then I'm going to spend all of his money on myself.
    Frankly, considering the fact that women are more likely to stay home than men anyway, it sort of makes sense that they would spend most of the money. They're the ones generally taking care of groceries, day-to-day household affairs, and family entertainment.

    What's dad taking care of? The occasional big ticket item every now and then?

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh well, according to some, they would just be doing their "womanly" duties. If some guy is going to have ME under his thumb, then I'm going to spend all of his money on myself.
    So, are you saying that having sex is being under a man's thumb? Now you tell me, after it's too late.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    If given the chance to re-marry would you marry (another) American woman?

    Increasingly the answer is "no".

    Men are increasingly disrespected by American women. They face extreme economic and social disadvantages in family law that makes it possible for a wife to divorce them and take most of what they have including their children for any reason or no reason. They are constantly told that they are worthless and stupid. Disrespect for men has become standard practice. Men are disrespected by their wives – they’re disrespected publicly, they’re disrespected privately, they’re disrespected and then told that they have no right to be upset about it because they aren’t worthy of respect in the first place.

    Disrespect of men is a joke to Americans now.

    The result has been that men are increasingly dropping out of society. They don't marry, they don't go to college because they see no reason to break their humps to get ready to provide for a family -- they aren't going to be having a family.

    Lots has been written about this phenomena, most of it in the strain of "why is it that men are so childish now." But men are not dropping out because of arrested development. They are acting rationally in response to myriad laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century.

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    Gotta say I wouldn't change a thing. I have not noticed the disrespect your talking about, but that's only in my case. I grew up in a family that treated each other with respect as did my wife. I guess that would explain why we haven't noticed this kind of treatment.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I agree that "typical" is hard to quantify. I was simply saying that it is the arrangement you see most often.

    Pushy women might very be becoming a bit more common, but so is divorce.
    Hmmm, explain "pushy" women please.



    You think that being cute is going to get you out of trouble? Lol!

    Like I said, I think trying to maintain a spotless household in the "leave it to beaver" style is frankly kind of a non-starter these days anyway. Not only is it an intrinsically thankless stressful job which often times requires holding things to unrealistic standards, but it simply isn't feasible with so many women working these days.

    Some degree of give and take is necessary.
    I agree. Everyone needs to share the household chores, even children should be doing chores to help out. If people would JUST pick up their mess when they were done making one, it would be a problem!! Grrrrr!

    While there are some basic principles I won't compromise on, because I frankly think they work, I'm actually rather fluid with regard to day-to-day matters.
    Such as?

    If something needs doing, I'll do it (so long as I'm not the only one doing so). I grew up doing a lot of household chores anyway, so its nothing new to me. lol
    Do you scrub toilets and tubs?

    Frankly, considering the fact that women are more likely to stay home than men anyway, it sort of makes sense that they would spend most of the money. They're the ones generally taking care of groceries, day-to-day household affairs, and family entertainment.

    What's dad taking care of? The occasional big ticket item every now and then?
    Okay, but this isn't true. My ex-boyfriend worked with quite a few guys whose wives made considerably more money than they did. Many of them worked in Boston and were professional women, while their husbands were union construction workers. I find that to be the case more and more often. A couple who was close to us, the wife was a registered nurse and worked all kinds of crazy hours at Boston Children's, and she made TONS of money. He didn't seem to mind at all though, and if you work a seasonable job, such as construction here in the northeast is, then you would be grateful to have a spouse who can make up for your loss of income during the winter months.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    So, are you saying that having sex is being under a man's thumb? Now you tell me, after it's too late.
    Huh? Sex? I love sex! I didn't say that!

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Huh? Sex? I love sex! I didn't say that!
    Lol- I was just kidding you about "being under a man's thumb", the association of that with sex, and with spending his money as compensation.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Hmmm, explain "pushy" women please.
    You know... "Pushy." Overly aggressive, authoritarian, and domineering in general demeanor.

    You think that being cute is going to get you out of trouble? Lol!
    It certainly doesn't hurt my cause.



    I agree. Everyone needs to share the household chores, even children should be doing chores to help out. If people would JUST pick up their mess when they were done making one, it would be a problem!! Grrrrr!
    I say the same damn thing around here all the time.

    My younger siblings will leave trash laying wherever they feel like it. It drives my military sensibilities absolutely nuts.

    Such as?
    I couldn't be with someone who never wanted children, or who wanted to completely swap gender roles so that she was the provider while I cared for the kids.

    If having children was impossible, or I was temporarily out of work, that would be one thing (though it is unlikely I would become involved with someone with the first condition anyway). However, someone who was going to insist on such a state of affairs as the default way of doing things wouldn't be someone I was compatible with in the first place.

    We'd simply be looking for different things out of life.

    Do you scrub toilets and tubs?
    I've got my own bathroom, so I tend to clean the toilet. I have no idea if the level of cleanliness or the frequency of that cleaning is up to female standards though.

    I'll get back to you on the tubs.

    Okay, but this isn't true. My ex-boyfriend worked with quite a few guys whose wives made considerably more money than they did. Many of them worked in Boston and were professional women, while their husbands were union construction workers. I find that to be the case more and more often. A couple who was close to us, the wife was a registered nurse and worked all kinds of crazy hours at Boston Children's, and she made TONS of money. He didn't seem to mind at all though, and if you work a seasonable job, such as construction here in the northeast is, then you would be grateful to have a spouse who can make up for your loss of income during the winter months.
    Well, again, looking at the stats, husbands still make more money in like 70% of married households. Somewhere around 30% of married women are housewives who don't really work as well.

    It's also worth noting that both of those numbers were higher before the recession hit as well. Many men lost their jobs and had to take lower paying replacements, or were unable to find new jobs, and this lead to a lot of women going back to work.

    That's actually what happened with my mother. My father was making six figures as a retail manager in the mid 2000s, but lost his job in 2009. His new job only pays 60K a year, and he has started to develop health problems, so my mother had to go back to work to make up the difference.

    Women who make more than their husbands certainly are around, and I don't doubt that they would be more common if the husband had a seasonal job. However, most households still use a model where the man is the main provider.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I would love to marry an American woman, especially my favorite lady with whom I have an excellent internet relationship with for the past 8 years or so.
    Do you think she has been faithful to you for the past eight wonderful years of internet bliss?
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    You know... "Pushy." Overly aggressive, authoritarian, and domineering in general demeanor.
    Oh, like my mom!


    It certainly doesn't hurt my cause.

    Aww, adorable!

    I say the same damn thing around here all the time.

    My younger siblings will leave trash laying wherever they feel like it. It drives my military sensibilities absolutely nuts.
    Imagine if you had to clean up their messes for them!

    I couldn't be with someone who never wanted children, or who wanted to completely swap gender roles so that she was the provider while I cared for the kids.
    Why not? Raising kids can be a very satisfying job. Seriously though, I really can understand how a man might feel a little less "manly" if he had to be Mr. Mom forever, but I think if he is laid off or something and the wife has a job, then it's not that big of a deal. It's not like the man has to wear a skirt and an apron or anything.

    If having children was impossible, or I was temporarily out of work, that would be one thing (though it is unlikely I would become involved with someone with the first condition anyway). However, someone who was going to insist on such a state of affairs as the default way of doing things wouldn't be someone I was compatible with in the first place.

    We'd simply be looking for different things out of life.
    What would you do if you met someone, got married and then found out she or YOU could not have children? It's not always because of the woman. Sometimes it's because of the man why a couple cannot have children. Then what?



    I've got my own bathroom, so I tend to clean the toilet. I have no idea if the level of cleanliness or the frequency of that cleaning is up to female standards though.

    I'll get back to you on the tubs.
    As far as I'm concerned, those are the two absolute worst jobs involving housecleaning. Lol.


    Well, again, looking at the stats, husbands still make more money in like 70% of married households. Somewhere around 30% of married women are housewives who don't really work as well.

    It's also worth noting that both of those numbers were higher before the recession hit as well. Many men lost their jobs and had to take lower paying replacements, or were unable to find new jobs, and this lead to a lot of women going back to work.

    That's actually what happened with my mother. My father was making six figures as a retail manager in the mid 2000s, but lost his job in 2009. His new job only pays 60K a year, and he has started to develop health problems, so my mother had to go back to work to make up the difference.

    Women who make more than their husbands certainly are around, and I don't doubt that they would be more common if the husband had a seasonal job. However, most households still use a model where the man is the main provider.

    That is changing though.

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