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Thread: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    While discussing the intricacies and dynamics of interpersonal relationships between sexes in an academic manner, may be interesting, and men appear dominant, you could be missing one small detail?

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    You've got it right, that men and women can play different roles in a relationship, depending on personality traits, but I wouldn't get overly caught up in analyzing sexist generalities, simply because people are too complicated. There are some common occurrences (truths) that you can talk about to other men, but I'd caution bringing them up in front of women, even in an educational form. The same way they talk to each other about the "dumb dog" traits, common in men.

    What really makes a couple work is a partnership, where each one supports the other. If you care enough about your significant other, you'll be amazed at what you'll do and change. When there's an unspoken loyalty and respect being exchanged, you develop a level of transparency and trust that surpasses all the little character flaws, defects and gender defined proclivities to embrace a greater union. There is no "boss", chief or primary personality and though one or the other often leads in the dance, they must always be aware that there is "no dance", without a partner.

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    Great post, and I especially like the bold part.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Great post, and I especially like the bold part.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    While discussing the intricacies and dynamics of interpersonal relationships between sexes in an academic manner, may be interesting, and men appear dominant, you could be missing one small detail?

    "Happy wife, happy life."
    Oh, I've said that dozens of times at this point. Lol

    Even a woman who appears to be "submissive" can still have a guy by the balls (regardless of whether he's actively aware of it or not).

    Everyone seems to just keep glossing over that nuance in my arguments though. I can't imagine why.

    You've got it right, that men and women can play different roles in a relationship, depending on personality traits, but I wouldn't get overly caught up in analyzing sexist generalities, simply because people are too complicated. There are some common occurrences (truths) that you can talk about to other men, but I'd caution bringing them up in front of women, even in an educational form. The same way they talk to each other about the "dumb dog" traits, common in men.
    Eh. What can I say? Tact isn't my strong suit.

    To be fair here, I'll also freely admit that many of the "generalities" women put forward about men tend to be true as well. We're really not terribly complicated creates when you get to the bottom of things.

    Feed us, love us, and make us feel needed, and we'll often be reduced to little more than putty in a woman's hands.

    What really makes a couple work is a partnership, where each one supports the other. If you care enough about your significant other, you'll be amazed at what you'll do and change. When there's an unspoken loyalty and respect being exchanged, you develop a level of transparency and trust that surpasses all the little character flaws, defects and gender defined proclivities to embrace a greater union. There is no "boss", chief or primary personality and though one or the other often leads in the dance, they must always be aware that there is "no dance", without a partner.

    If I ever took lead for my family, it was out of love and servitude, not for my ego.
    Absolutely. I agree.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well I think you like to fight simply because you keep bringing the word "dominance" into the equation, when someone, for instance, letting the other partner handle the check book is NOT being submissive. BOTH partners are equal in the relationship. If one is dominating the other, then that is kind of an abusive relationship.
    Honestly, I think a lot of people are getting too hung up on the verbage here, and it's causing them to lose sight of the "bigger picture."

    "Dominance" doesn't necessarily have to indicate abuse or neglect of someone else's desires. It simply indicates that they are taking a more assertive role in something than someone else.

    As I said already, it isn't even one sided, as men and women tend to "dominate" different (equally important) aspects of the relationship anyway. Things simply aren't going to work if one partner tries to micromanage everything, without allowing their partner any input.

    That's how I look at things, anyway.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    See my previous posts about wannabe alpha males who get off on pouring scorn on other men.
    Yeah, total nonsense, this has nothing to do with wannabe alpha males but normal men who have no desire to be alpha males (because alpha males is a totally backward view on males). The fact is IMHO, that only wanna be alpha males are the ones who are complaining about women standing up for themselves.

    My points of view are not pouring scorn on other men but exposing the pathetic sob stories of the macho losers who think the world should revolve around them because they are "the man" and all women should bow down when they enter the room and should spread their legs so that they can got one over, after which the woman has to retreat back to the kitchen to make his dinner and then go and do some cleaning.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Honestly, I think a lot of people are getting too hung up on the verbage here, and it's causing them to lose sight of the "bigger picture."

    "Dominance" doesn't necessarily have to indicate abuse or neglect of someone else's desires. It simply indicates that they are taking a more assertive role in something than someone else.

    As I said already, it isn't even one sided, as men and women tend to "dominate" different (equally important) aspects of the relationship anyway. Things simply aren't going to work if one partner tries to micromanage everything, without allowing their partner any input.

    That's how I look at things, anyway.
    Dammit Gathomas, this is what I'VE been saying all along, that a relationship is a PARTNERSHIP and that one spouse/SO is not more dominant than the other, at least in a healthy and good relationship.

    You are the one who started off in this thread talking about how men are the dominant ones (or SHOULD be) in their relationships with women, and I am the one who has been saying that is just not true. Then you go and try to make it sound as if that is what YOU have been saying all along? WTH do you think all the women have been arguing with you about throughout this thread then?

    God, I really like you, but you are exasperating sometimes!

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Oh, I've said that dozens of times at this point. Lol

    Even a woman who appears to be "submissive" can still have a guy by the balls (regardless of whether he's actively aware of it or not).

    Everyone seems to just keep glossing over that nuance in my arguments though. I can't imagine why.
    There are certain traits about sexes that are common, like men are hunters and women nest.
    But submissive vs domineering is more about personality than sexuality.
    For example, my father had a strong personality and may have appeared to dominate my mother but he didn't make any family decision, without consulting her opinion. He may have made announcements or initially decided punishments to us kids, but she always intervened for a lesser sentence.

    People often will gloss over details because they only want to see the differences, rather than any similarities. They make assumptions, instead of paying attention to the whole statement.

    Eh. What can I say? Tact isn't my strong suit.

    To be fair here, I'll also freely admit that many of the "generalities" women put forward about men tend to be true as well. We're really not terribly complicated creates when you get to the bottom of things.

    Feed us, love us, and make us feel needed, and we'll often be reduced to little more than putty in a woman's hands.
    Women want an equal on the levels that are important, not a simple minded slob. Of course, men don't want an overbearing control freak that nags them all day. It's a give and take relationship that requires work, and even on the best of days it's not easy.

    I have a friend who says his girl wants him to read her mind. And I said, no she wants you to pay attention and not take her for granted.
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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    It's the experience of a lot of couples: The Difference Between a Happy Marriage and Miserable One: Chores - Wendy Klein, Carolina Izquierdo, & Thomas N. Bradbury - The Atlantic I'd differ from the article, though, in saying that coming to a mutual understanding about this issue is for the most part a pipe dream. That would require both people to be flexible. For most couples that's a non-starter. The way it really happens is that someone asserts dominance.

    In keeping with the precedence set in this thread of making unfounded assumptions concerning other people's personal lives, I'd suggest if you ever do have a long term relationship with someone you'll find it's a lot more difficult to settle these issues than you seem to think.
    Frankly, I think a lot people are too rigid about these things anyway. That's probably the biggest part of the problem.

    My mother chose to stay home, and she also chose to homeschool. By and large, she was pretty good at it.

    She was not, by any means, however; a "domestic goddess." It drove her nuts to even try.

    While that would occassionally cause conflicts between her and my father, it really wasn't a big deal on the whole. It simply meant that the house felt "lived in" most of the time, and he would come home every now and then in a pissy mood and put all of us kids to work cleaning the parts of the house that were bothering him.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Frankly, I think a lot people are too rigid about these things anyway. That's probably the biggest part of the problem.
    Ahem . . .

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    So basically Gathomas, you are saying that NOBODY really is the dominant entity in the relationship. THANK YOU for finally agreeing with me! Lol!
    I think generally speaking... In America, women are the dominant entity in the vast majority of relationships. All one has to do is follow the money. And more than 70% of all consumer spending is controlled by women. Which means women are the ones making the majority of the decisions in relationships. Not only that, women control sex in relationships and they control when relationships will end (70% of women are the initiators of divorce).
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