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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Withhold sex?!

    I don't agree with making threats like that. That's pathetic.
    This. This is manipulation and control games, not orderly dominance and submission.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Withhold sex?!

    I don't agree with making threats like that. That's pathetic.
    A lot of women do it either way regardless though.

    It tends to be fairly effective, from what I understand.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Be careful what you wish for. I would eat you up like candy!
    That a promise?

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Well like most things, I'm sure it is more complicated than that. My first hand experience tells me that many young men who do not chose the military have are having a harder time finding a job that will provide for them.
    Single men without families have pretty low costs of living. I did it working part time at a restaurant, spending my off time arguing on internet forums like this and watching the SciFi Channel.

    I am certain there is the occasional mama's boy who just doesn't want to leave the cocoon, but I again limiting it as if you have is an oversimplification.
    I think you are overlapping "adult boys" with "adult males who live in their mothers' basement". There is certainly heavy overlap between those two groups, but they are not conflatable.

    Sorry, that's a myth.
    In fact it is not - I realize that a million years of human evolution are often inconvenient for the modern feminist movement, but that does not obviate it or annul its effects.

    Mating is not a sentimental or humane activity; it is, rather, as competitive, conflictual, and manipulative on the human level as it is among the insects. To provide for themselves and their offspring, women seek providers--men with money, power, maturity, ambition, stability, commitment, health, and cooperative natures. Men, for similar reasons, invest their time, resources, and sperm in young, beautiful, and fertile women who will give them heirs and status. At the same time they retain a primitive ability for casual sex as well--a sexual mechanism that is less selective and can be satisfied in more primitive ways such as fantasy, homosexuality, and incest. The capacity for multiple partners, casual sex, jealousy (a series of protective responses), and divorce are all adaptive mechanisms to help people--though mostly men--achieve their reproductive potential. Detailed analysis of various forms of mating rituals considered in large anthropological and biological contexts explain adaptive techniques for attracting and keeping mates and what happens when they get out of hand, ancestral instincts becoming destructive (abuse and rape)....
    There is a reason why men who are taller are more attractive, why men who are successful in business are more attractive, why men with power are more attractive, and so on and so forth. Women value alpha status like men value sexual availability and the physical ability to bear multiple hears, and those things are cues for that. For both it is a smart evolutionary strategy to ensure that their genes have the highest probability of being passed on.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree with that to an extent. Some people have serious problems though. What if it was something like drinking? What if he was a problem drinker? Those are the kinds of things I'm talking about.
    I don't think "forbidding" an addict to do something would have much impact anyway though.

    You'd have to get them professional help, most likely.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Single men without families have pretty low costs of living. I did it working part time at a restaurant, spending my off time arguing on internet forums like this and watching the SciFi Channel.



    I think you are overlapping "adult boys" with "adult males who live in their mothers' basement". There is certainly heavy overlap between those two groups, but they are not conflatable.



    In fact it is not - I realize that a million years of human evolution are often inconvenient for the modern feminist movement, but that does not obviate it or annul its effects.



    There is a reason why men who are taller are more attractive, why men who are successful in business are more attractive, why men with power are more attractive, and so on and so forth. Women value alpha status like men value sexual availability and the physical ability to bear multiple hears, and those things are cues for that. For both it is a smart evolutionary strategy to ensure that their genes have the highest probability of being passed on.
    Multiple hears?

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I don't think "forbidding" an addict to do something would have much impact anyway though.

    You'd have to get them professional help, most likely.
    Well, a problem drinker might not be an alcoholic, but might be someone who is prone to drinking TOO much in certain environments, and their attitudes are REALLY bad when drunk, but when they avoid those environments they are fine. I've known several people like this. Not a person I dated, but I've had a few friends who made it a point to stay away from bars because they had those issues, but if they didn't frequent them, it wasn't an issue.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree with that to an extent. Some people have serious problems though. What if it was something like drinking? What if he was a problem drinker? Those are the kinds of things I'm talking about.
    If either party of a marriage is a problem drinker, it won't be a healthy marriage because that automatically triggers controlling behavior in both. Marriages can certainly survive it whether or not the problem drinker or other addict gets at handle on that, but they won't be healthy.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Multiple hears?
    Yes. Multiple Hears.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, a problem drinker might not be an alcoholic, but might be someone who is prone to drinking TOO much in certain environments, and their attitudes are REALLY bad when drunk, but when they avoid those environments they are fine. I've known several people like this. Not a person I dated, but I've had a few friends who made it a point to stay away from bars because they had those issues, but if they didn't frequent them, it wasn't an issue.
    That would likely warrant a more forceful response. However, even then, I think an ultimatum would probably be more effective than simply forbidding the activity outright.

    i.e.

    "I'm willing to help and support you every step of the way, but if this doesn't change, I walk."

    Frankly, if the behavior were simply an annoyance rather than a real problem, positive reinforcement meant to encourage behavior change would probably be a more effective tool than confrontation anyway.

    Provide incentives for his behavior to change.

    Lord knows that women have plenty of means available to accomplish that.

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