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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?[W:771]

    I know a self described feminist housewife, mother of four. I am not sure how much time she put towards making sure food is pesticide free, but I liked her. I also have a good friend that makes vegan food, and calls herself the same. So I have definitely seen what you're saying first hand.


    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    The third wave promotes motherhood as the ultimate expression of femininity, and elevates it above everything. Not just career, but even their relationship with their partner. It's the feminism of co-sleeping into grade school and things like that (although to their view, real feminists homeschool too). A woman who is properly deferential to her reproductive ability spends her time at home, making crunchy DIY products to protect her children from the poison of consumer products. It's a total obsession with children and homemaking.

    Women like me are viewed with a certain degree of disdain for rejecting our most "feminine" quality. They'll pay lip service to the idea that women get to decide their paths, but they will also say it's "sad" that I have chosen not to experience the "ultimate" love and purpose of being a mother.

    Personally, I want nothing to do with the third wave, and I think it's nothing more than a reaction by disappointed second wave feminists whose lives didn't turn out how they imagined.

    Now, that said, there are still lots of feminists doing good work, but this is the most clearly identifiable, dedicated feminism that I see at this point in time.

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Is this the part where I point out the emotional content of your response vice the reason in it, and you get all bent out of shape at me accusing you of reacting emotionally, and then I point out that you are demonstrating part of my point?
    I'm not being emotional. I was trying to be funny, but stuffy guys with the mentality of a cranky old man don't get humor.

    however, I'll agree, I haven't been married that long - about 6 years now in all. Fortunately, they do polling on this sort of thing, and so when I point out that - generally - women prefer to be led by a man vice (for example) a woman boss, I am - generally - correct. The stats are probably out there for the other items as well - would you like to place, say, a year's platinum membership on the line that men ask women to marry them more than women ask men? We could wager a sig line on whether or not men initiate sex more than women do? whattya say?
    All of this depends upon the person. People are individuals. I don't know why you can't understand this simple concept.

    Usually it's Outback. Or Chik-fil-A.
    Never had Chik-fil-A. We don't have those around here. Outback blooming onions are the bomb!

    responding with sarcasm doesn't actually make you look well-thought-out, Chris. It just makes you look unable to respond with anything else.
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    Oh well, you can't speak for other people, only yourself. You need to realize that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Never had Chik-fil-A. We don't have those around here.
    You're missing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    You're missing out.
    Is it anything like Kentucky Fried Chicken? I've had that plenty of times. What's so special about this place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Is it anything like Kentucky Fried Chicken? I've had that plenty of times. What's so special about this place?
    It's almost, but not some perfect thing that some would pretend. Honestly, I like McDonald's crispy fried chicken better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    It's almost, but not some perfect thing that some would pretend. Honestly, I like McDonald's crispy fried chicken better.
    To me, fried chicken is always good. You have to REALLY mess it up to make it taste bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Is it anything like Kentucky Fried Chicken? I've had that plenty of times. What's so special about this place?
    Waaaaay better than Kentucky Fried Chicken.

    They specialize more in chicken nuggets and sandwiches than fried chicken proper though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Waaaaay better than Kentucky Fried Chicken.
    How can that BE? They don't have the Colonel's secret recipe???!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I've provided financial coaching, career advice, and personal mentoring to, well, probably a couple of hundred 18-24 year old males over the last few years, and I struggle to come up with a definition by which I can describe "having a clear goal in life and working towards it" is a defining feature of the age group. We're extending adolescence until what - 26 now? 26 year olds used to have multiple children and a career. Now they are in graduate school working on that thesis eventually while still using their parents' health insurance? That is going to have effects. We sent everyone to college and then we started extending college -your typical four year degree now happens in five years if it happens at all. That is going to have effects. Marriage and parenthood is a major spur for men to grow up. It's happening later and later and less and less. That is going to have effects.



    that's not implausible at all. Women are attracted to alpha's, after all. Men therefore seek success not least because it increases their attractiveness to women, and their ability to turn that attraction into what they are seeking (sex). Give a guy sex without making him work for it, and he's like the butterfly you helped out of the cocoon. Happy now, and he'll never fly under his own power.
    Greetings, cpwill.

    Excellent post! Perhaps the reason there are so many divorces in the age group you cited is because nobody has to grow up fast like previous generations were forced to do, mainly for economic reasons. It seems like when newly married couples today hit the inevitable bumps in the road which life throws at them, their first reaction is to think about divorce instead of working together and getting through them. "Life is supposed to be fun, so who needs problems?" type of thinking.

    As I have posted before, it's interesting that young divorced people still continue to party with each other in their respective groups, and they have no problems with that. I suppose that is a good thing, because women no longer have to stay in a marriage to feel financially secure since most can take care of themselves because they have jobs, but it is indicative of the thinking today. I do believe that men have more to lose, though, because they are wired since cave-man days to be the providers, and that has been taken away from them in many cases. Just an observation on my part...

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    Re: Men: Would You Marry an American Woman?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    To me, fried chicken is always good. You have to REALLY mess it up to make it taste bad.
    Zaxby's is probably my favorite. $9 will get you 6 chicken fingers, a full box of steak fries, and two pieces of texas toast with a drink on the side.

    It's the quickest path to heart disease known to man!

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