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Thread: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    How exactly do they bust stores that sell booze to minors?


    Again, it happens all the time.
    They send in under cover people into the store. I've seen stories about it on the news several times here. There was also a big bust here last year for a store that was selling cigarettes individually to customers.

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    Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Here is the situation. My brother and his sons live in another state. My sister passed away this month from lung cancer. I traveled there for the funeral and to visit. When I got there i found my brother and two of his sons had not eaten for two days. So i went out and picked up some burgers. After they had eaten I took my brother and his sons in my rental car, none of them have a car, to buy groceries which I gladly paid for. On the way back they asked me to stop at a store so i did. They came out with beer and cigaretts. Well needless to say i was pissed. I asked, how can you afford beer and cigaretts but can't affod food. My brother responded "the store accepted his food stamp card for beer and smokes, isn't that cool" I said hell no its not cool. My brother and his adult sons are on food stamps. So what am I to do. Turn in my brother and his sons.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Generally only small stores do it. Large stores and chains tend to avoid huge fines and the imprisonment of their employees.
    It's probably just not worth the risk for a larger store that brings in a huge profit margin. Maybe that's not the case for your local mom and pop stores.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I appreciate your compassion.

    But I am compelled to ask. Here we have a person scamming the system to buy beer and cigarettes and you suggest that "if they are religious......" How did you get from scamming cigarettes and beer to them being religious and seeking pastoral or psychological counceling?

    Don't get me wrong. That idea is as good as any. I am just wondering how you got from A to B. The OP didn't make me think the people involved were into religion at all.
    There is no such thing as a "perfect" person. Even drug addicts seek out help and sometimes religion helps people a lot more than you would think. Just talking to someone who is an objective listener and isn't going to be judgmental can be a great relief to people who are suffering. Sometimes people don't walk to talk with their family members/friends because they don't want to burden them.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    I would be highly pissed at the store - not that anyone will DO anything about selling booze and smokes..
    That's so not true. Police departments have units that constantly bust such places around here.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There is no such thing as a "perfect" person. .
    Chris, Chris, Chris -- you should know better than to say something like that!

    You've known me HOW long by now?
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's probably just not worth the risk for a larger store that brings in a huge profit margin. Maybe that's not the case for your local mom and pop stores.
    Not so much mom and pop stores, they're generally saving for their child's college or retirement. It's the 'creepy dude' stores, with needles laying around and little baggies strewn throughout the parking lot and a dumpster that looks kinda like a studio apartment. Generally with a parking lot in the rear, high security fence and the smell of homeless people wafting about.

    Most towns have one here and there.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I can see your point, but a person is still going to naturally have more reservations about turning in a family member than a stranger. I don't know if I could call a person a "hypocrite" for choosing to NOT do it because it's not an easy thing to do and can cause severe turmoil in your family too.
    Hypocrisy is having different standards for an in group as opposed to an out group. In any case, that is the definition that captures the root of hypocritical feeling. Lying to yourself about the character of what you are doing because something is difficult is ultimately not a very good path. It is ALWAYS difficult to have standards of conduct. When would NOT being hypocritical ever be easy? As I already stated, I do understand the emotion, but a spade is still a spade.

    As to who is at fault for the turmoil... that would be the ones causing it. Namely, the ones breaking the law.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Having come from a long line of law enforcement professionals, I would recommend that you follow the rule of occupation that has served my family well.

    Rule: Do not police your neighbor's, family or friend's. Let the other cops do that. You police THEIR neighbors, family and friends. It all works out better that way.

    Regardless of your disdain, you will never find a way to be the "good guy" in this. Report them if you must but be prepared for blow back. For I assure you, in the end you will be made out to be the bad guy. It's kind of like telling someone their significant other is cheating on them. You can never win.

    But if you wanted to tell the powers that be that the store is trading beer and cigs for food stamps, I suppose that might give you some solace. But do that knowing that there are 10,000 similar reports like that ahead of yours.

    Quoted for truth Cap.

    Also.....lets not forget how the blowback works with Cameras in a Store.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    After you've cooled down, try and have a calm discussion with your brother. Tell him you didn't mind helping him out with the groceries, but it really bothers you that they would use their Food Stamps card for non-necessities. Tell him how you feel about it, without being judgmental.

    Hopefully, maybe he'll see the light of day about how he's using that card.....

    As to turning him in, well, if the program allows him to use his card for such products he's not actually committing fraud, just showing very poor judgment.
    This...
    Fool me once, shame on you.
    Fool me twice....shame on me.

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