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Thread: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    On one side...turn in your family.

    On the opposite side...do nothing.



    Turn in the store. The middle path.
    How about trying to get the family some help first? I think that's a more middle of the road suggestion, although I would turn in the store too because what they are doing is illegal. You are not supposed to be able to buy tobacco and alcohol with food stamps as far as I know, but then these people will just turn around and sell their food stamps for half price in order to get their tobacco and alcohol because they are both quite addictive substances.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    From a logical perspective, I disagree that you protect family in this way. Do you agree with the law that says you can't use food stamps for such things? Would you turn a non-family person in for it? If the answer is yes to both of these, then it is hypocritical to make an exception for a family member. Please note: I think the penalties may be very steep for such fraud, especially considering that most eligible people are rather poor. I think this could have bearing as to whether one agrees with the law. You may want to look into this aspect.

    I won't say how I would answer these questions, and I understand the emotions that cause us to be hypocrites. But, I cannot see any reasoned account under which to make the exception.

    At the very least I would wait a couple weeks and then turn in the store. They are more at fault in this situation, IMO. However, there may be a small chance your family could get caught as a result of this store getting investigated.

    Comment on family: My family does know how I think about these things, and a few of the younger ones are not the best citizens. They know to steer clear of me, and I am just fine with that.
    Just a thought your post brought to mind . . . the enabling part . . . really, he doesn't even know if they DID take food stamps for that stuff. If his brother had just shelled out cash for food, why didn't he use them then? That's the question to ask. Why were they two days hungry? Were they? Did they use the food stamps in there? Or did they use cash?

    As to reporting them, he knows nothing. He didn't see the store accept them. Didn't even see them use 'em. Imagine the call:

    "My brother told me that XYZ store took food stamps from him to buy alcohol and cigarettes on Saturday."

    "Yeah? Wow. Well, thanks for calling."

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Too late - your twatness has already plopped on the floor, just like a Baby Ruth.

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    I think anyone would agree that a Baby Ruth is a pretty good outcome of being a pedantic twat.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    From a logical perspective, I disagree that you protect family in this way. Do you agree with the law that says you can't use food stamps for such things? Would you turn a non-family person in for it? If the answer is yes to both of these, then it is hypocritical to make an exception for a family member. Please note: I think the penalties may be very steep for such fraud, especially considering that most eligible people are rather poor. I think this could have bearing as to whether one agrees with the law. You may want to look into this aspect.

    I won't say how I would answer these questions, and I understand the emotions that cause us to be hypocrites. But, I cannot see any reasoned account under which to make the exception.

    At the very least I would wait a couple weeks and then turn in the store. They are more at fault in this situation, IMO. However, there may be a small chance your family could get caught as a result of this store getting investigated.

    Comment on family: My family does know how I think about these things, and a few of the younger ones are not the best citizens. They know to steer clear of me, and I am just fine with that.
    I don't think it's hypocritical because it's only natural that you would care more about your family than some stranger and be more hesitant to turn in a family member, if you have any sense of family loyalty of course.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think anyone would agree that a Baby Ruth is the best possible outcome of being a pedantic twat.
    You are obviously missing the Caddyshack reference - also too common for you?
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And how is SgtRock going to do that without sweeping up his family into the mix, oh Buddhist genius?
    I guess you have a point there. If he turns in the store, chances are the authorities will find out that his brother has been using his food stamps to purchase tobacco and alcohol at this store.

    Maybe that's Kevin's point though. Instead of just turning in your family, you turn in the store and inadvertently the family gets found out too?

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Here is the situation. My brother and his sons live in another state. My sister passed away this month from lung cancer. I traveled there for the funeral and to visit. When I got there i found my brother and two of his sons had not eaten for two days. So i went out and picked up some burgers. After they had eaten I took my brother and his sons in my rental car, none of them have a car, to buy groceries which I gladly paid for. On the way back they asked me to stop at a store so i did. They came out with beer and cigaretts. Well needless to say i was pissed. I asked, how can you afford beer and cigaretts but can't afford food. My brother responded "the store accepted his food stamp card for beer and smokes, isn't that cool" I said hell no its not cool. My brother and his adult sons are on food stamps. So what am I to do. Turn in my brother and his sons.
    You do not want to turn in your brother...if you value family ties. Sooner or later, someone will. What he is "getting away with" won't last long, and the store will also be in trouble. Stay out of it would be my advice.

    Greetings, SgtRock.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    You are obviously missing the Caddyshack reference - also too common for you?
    No, I just don't remember every 80's reference.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Here is the situation. My brother and his sons live in another state. My sister passed away this month from lung cancer. I traveled there for the funeral and to visit. When I got there i found my brother and two of his sons had not eaten for two days. So i went out and picked up some burgers. After they had eaten I took my brother and his sons in my rental car, none of them have a car, to buy groceries which I gladly paid for. On the way back they asked me to stop at a store so i did. They came out with beer and cigaretts. Well needless to say i was pissed. I asked, how can you afford beer and cigaretts but can't afford food. My brother responded "the store accepted his food stamp card for beer and smokes, isn't that cool" I said hell no its not cool. My brother and his adult sons are on food stamps. So what am I to do. Turn in my brother and his sons.
    So let's take stock of all of this... your online name is SgtRock. You present an online persona of assertion, even aggressive chin-out stance. But when it comes time to USE that in the real world scenario you ask about doing the limp willie snitch routine?

    My brother lived in my grandmother's house after she went to 'the Home'. He never paid the bills, did a lot of drinking and a few drugs. Power turned off, my wife and I lost the half beef in the freezer. I calmly asked him about it, noticed the smoked stained walls and crappy remelt candles and then just beat his ass. Not a real beat down, he is my brother, but until he couldn't stand. I then drug him outside, told him he needed to find a new place to live.

    Time to nut-up, family is family.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If they are religious people, refer them to a local pastor for counseling. At least he should be getting those kids into counseling. They lost their mom, and that's not easy for young boys to deal with all by themselves with an obviously inattentive father who is wallowing in his own misery from what it sounds like.
    Sorry, they are my brothets sons. They lost their aunt. My sister lived in the same city and was very close to them. Btw my sister has two sons who are devistated but doing better finacially.
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