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Thread: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    So what do you suggest I do?
    If they are religious people, refer them to a local pastor for counseling. At least he should be getting those kids into counseling. They lost their mom, and that's not easy for young boys to deal with all by themselves with an obviously inattentive father who is wallowing in his own misery from what it sounds like.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Cherry pick much - you missed the first part in Wiki:



    I'll stick with the common usage, for which I was correct.
    The "common usage" is stupid. The original meaning actually makes more sense.

    That said, I know better than to be the pedantic twat who insists on correcting everyone at every social gathering.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I did as you suggested before I left to come back home. However the program does not allow the purchase of beer and cigaretts. I love my brother and he is having a difficult time. I have helped him many times over the years. But I will not enable him. He is reaping what he sowed.
    I didn't even pay attention to the little fact that the program doesn't cover those purchases, my bad.

    Then I would do as others have suggested and drop a dime on the store. If they did it for your brother, I'm sure they've done it for others.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    You said always not me. Keep in mind my sister just died from lung cancer and my brother and his sons are are starving and using food stamp cards to by cigaretts.
    Sounds like it's THEIR choice to starve. We aren't talking little kids here.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    From a logical perspective, I disagree that you protect family in this way. Do you agree with the law that says you can't use food stamps for such things? Would you turn a non-family person in for it? If the answer is yes to both of these, then it is hypocritical to make an exception for a family member. Please note: I think the penalties may be very steep for such fraud, especially considering that most eligible people are rather poor. I think this could have bearing as to whether one agrees with the law. You may want to look into this aspect.

    I won't say how I would answer these questions, and I understand the emotions that cause us to be hypocrites. But, I cannot see any reasoned account under which to make the exception.

    At the very least I would wait a couple weeks and then turn in the store. They are more at fault in this situation, IMO. However, there may be a small chance your family could get caught as a result of this store getting investigated.

    Comment on family: My family does know how I think about these things, and a few of the younger ones are not the best citizens. They know to steer clear of me, and I am just fine with that.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I did as you suggested before I left to come back home. However the program does not allow the purchase of beer and cigaretts. I love my brother and he is having a difficult time. I have helped him many times over the years. But I will not enable him. He is reaping what he sowed.
    I didn't even think about that aspect, my bad.

    Then I would suggest as others have and drop a dime on the store that sold it to them. If they did it for your brother, I'm sure they've done it for others.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I thought he said it's his BROTHER, though, not brother-in-law. I would think I would feel bad that they were obviously suffering after the loss of their mom/wife, and want to try to help them. Or at least try to get the kids some help. It sounds like this is a family that needs some counseling IMO.
    He is my brother. My sister passed this month. Not mother or wife. Sorry this is a bit confussing. My sisters passing has been extremely difficult for all of us. My brother has been on food stamps for a long time. His boys are 19 and 22. The store not only commited fraud but aslo sold beer to a minor. Anyway, other than talking to my brother and his sons about this and expressing my disapointment, I have not done anything else at this point.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's a very helpful post. Thank you for contributing that. Not to switch topics midstream or anything, but have you considered a lucrative career in the fortune cookie industry?
    On one side...turn in your family.

    On the opposite side...do nothing.



    Turn in the store. The middle path.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The "common usage" is stupid. The original meaning actually makes more sense.

    That said, I know better than to be the pedantic twat who insists on correcting everyone at every social gathering.
    Too late - your twatness has already plopped on the floor, just like a Baby Ruth.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    On one side...turn in your family.

    On the opposite side...do nothing.

    Turn in the store. The middle path.
    And how is SgtRock going to do that without sweeping up his family into the mix, oh Buddhist genius?

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