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Thread: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Having come from a long line of law enforcement professionals, I would recommend that you follow the rule of occupation that has served my family well.

    Rule: Do not police your neighbor's, family or friend's. Let the other cops do that. You police THEIR neighbors, family and friends. It all works out better that way.

    Regardless of your disdain, you will never find a way to be the "good guy" in this. Report them if you must but be prepared for blow back. For I assure you, in the end you will be made out to be the bad guy. It's kind of like telling someone their significant other is cheating on them. You can never win.

    But if you wanted to tell the powers that be that the store is trading beer and cigs for food stamps, I suppose that might give you some solace. But do that knowing that there are 10,000 similar reports like that ahead of yours.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Here is the situation. My brother and his sons live in another state. My sister passed away this month from lung cancer. I traveled there for the funeral and to visit. When I got there i found my brother and two of his sons had not eaten for two days. So i went out and picked up some burgers. After they had eaten I took my brother and his sons in my rental car, none of them have a car, to buy groceries which I gladly paid for. On the way back they asked me to stop at a store so i did. They came out with beer and cigaretts. Well needless to say i was pissed. I asked, how can you afford beer and cigaretts but can't afford food. My brother responded "the store accepted his food stamp card for beer and smokes, isn't that cool" I said hell no its not cool. My brother and his adult sons are on food stamps. So what am I to do. Turn in my brother and his sons.
    Only if you are also willing to turn in any Capitalist who also commits fraud, with the other Peoples' money. Know any, practitioners of the abomination of hypocrisy, who aren't related?

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Chances are you will see your brother-in-law and his kids less and less as time goes by, so don't sweat it.

    If you really care, just report the store that accepted the card.
    I thought he said it's his BROTHER, though, not brother-in-law. I would think I would feel bad that they were obviously suffering after the loss of their mom/wife, and want to try to help them. Or at least try to get the kids some help. It sounds like this is a family that needs some counseling IMO.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's actually not what "blood is thicker than water" means. In fact it actually means the opposite.

    " the full proverb is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb", and refers to relationships formed by choice are deeper than those that are forced by birth."

    Blood is thicker than water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    ...and goes back to Roman times (at least) to imply that the blood spilled (and bled) among fellow soldiers is more significant than from whom you were born.
    So what do you suggest I do?
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Here is the situation. My brother and his sons live in another state. My sister passed away this month from lung cancer. I traveled there for the funeral and to visit. When I got there i found my brother and two of his sons had not eaten for two days. So i went out and picked up some burgers. After they had eaten I took my brother and his sons in my rental car, none of them have a car, to buy groceries which I gladly paid for. On the way back they asked me to stop at a store so i did. They came out with beer and cigaretts. Well needless to say i was pissed. I asked, how can you afford beer and cigaretts but can't afford food. My brother responded "the store accepted his food stamp card for beer and smokes, isn't that cool" I said hell no its not cool. My brother and his adult sons are on food stamps. So what am I to do. Turn in my brother and his sons.
    Tough question. I would agree that turning them in, if that is even feasible, would be a bad idea because they are your family and it is not equatable to murder/rape as you mentioned. You've been fooled once, so I doubt you'll allow yourself to be fooled again (meaning you know not to enable now). As someone else suggested, now that you know what's going on, you'll probably keep your distance so as not to be associated with fraud. You could try a heart to heart with your brother. If you do this, try to offer something constructive instead of just throwing spears. If you feel compelled enough to do something tangible, you could report the store, although they are simply taking advantage of a broken system. They probably aren't intending for people to buy cigs and beer over food, that was your brother's decision. You'll figure out the best course. Sorry for your loss.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That's actually not what "blood is thicker than water" means. In fact it actually means the opposite.

    " the full proverb is "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb", and refers to relationships formed by choice are deeper than those that are forced by birth."

    Blood is thicker than water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    ...and goes back to Roman times (at least) to imply that the blood spilled (and bled) among fellow soldiers is more significant than from whom you were born.
    Cherry pick much - you missed the first part in Wiki:

    In modern society, the proverb "blood is thicker than water" is used to imply that family ties (blood) are always more important (thicker) than the ties you make among friends (water). It generally means that the bonds of family and common ancestry are stronger than the bonds between unrelated people (such as friendship).

    The equivalent proverb in German (originally: Blut ist dicker als Wasser), first appeared in the medieval German beast epic Reinhart Fuchs (c. 1180 'Reynard the Fox') by Heinrich der Glīchezęre, whose words in English read, 'Kin-blood is not spoilt by water.'
    I'll stick with the common usage, for which I was correct.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    So what do you suggest I do?
    If I had a smart answer I would have given it to you by now.

    That said, I think getting authorities involved is a bad idea.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 02-23-14 at 12:11 PM.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Here is the situation. My brother and his sons live in another state. My sister passed away this month from lung cancer. I traveled there for the funeral and to visit. When I got there i found my brother and two of his sons had not eaten for two days. So i went out and picked up some burgers. After they had eaten I took my brother and his sons in my rental car, none of them have a car, to buy groceries which I gladly paid for. On the way back they asked me to stop at a store so i did. They came out with beer and cigaretts. Well needless to say i was pissed. I asked, how can you afford beer and cigaretts but can't afford food. My brother responded "the store accepted his food stamp card for beer and smokes, isn't that cool" I said hell no its not cool. My brother and his adult sons are on food stamps. So what am I to do. Turn in my brother and his sons.
    Would I do it? Absolutely not. There are undoubtedly some things a family member could do that would lead me to report them to authorities, but food-stamp mis-use is hardly one of them.

    Mind your own business.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I thought he said it's his BROTHER, though, not brother-in-law. I would think I would feel bad that they were obviously suffering after the loss of their mom/wife, and want to try to help them. Or at least try to get the kids some help. It sounds like this is a family that needs some counseling IMO.
    Yea-I'm confused too, b/c I was thinking it was BIL since his sister just died of lung cancer? It sounded intertwined.

    Anyway no I would not turn them in, but that's just me. People's sins will eventually find them out. Talk to them about it, that way when they do get caught you can say 'hey, at least I warned you''.

    Sorry about your sis's passing.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Simply insist beer and tobacco is no substitute for eating a balanced diet. Maybe you can suggest they buy multivitamins, along with their beer and tobacco.

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