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Thread: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And how would you suggest they do THAT? I mean, everything is going to depend upon how the cashier punches a purchase into the register I think.
    The scanned bar codes indicate the product being purchased. Require everything to be scanned. Don't allow stuff that cannot be scanned to be purchased with EBT. It is not like they are going to starve if they can't get that one legitimate item that happens not to be in the system properly. Technology is a wonderful thing.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    However, people DO still make "deals" to buy another person food or other items allowed in exchange for some cash, and I think that is one of the biggest ways people cheat the system, and that is really hard to crack down on.
    EBT use costs 50% on the street and 66% among friends.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sure. And he should send a tip to the PD about that store.
    I'd agree with that.

    I also think people with EBT cards shouldn't be able to get CASH using that card; they should only be able to use it to buy food.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Precisely.

    I think allowing these stores to accept EBT is corruption based on a plausible need. In order to accept EBT, a store should have to implement systems that prevent acceptance of the card for anything but approved purchases.
    Exactly, and if the business doesn't have at least 80% of all its sales on food sales, no acceptance of an EBT period. Only those stores which fall into the 80% or higher rate on food sales should be allowed to accept EBT cards. No other stores at all.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Just a thought your post brought to mind . . . the enabling part . . . really, he doesn't even know if they DID take food stamps for that stuff. If his brother had just shelled out cash for food, why didn't he use them then? That's the question to ask. Why were they two days hungry? Were they? Did they use the food stamps in there? Or did they use cash?

    As to reporting them, he knows nothing. He didn't see the store accept them. Didn't even see them use 'em. Imagine the call:

    "My brother told me that XYZ store took food stamps from him to buy alcohol and cigarettes on Saturday."

    "Yeah? Wow. Well, thanks for calling."
    They were hungry for two days because my sister just died. And because they are without transportation. And they save their food stamp money for beer and cigarettes. You must not have The store that accepts there card for beer and cigarettes is 18 miles from there apartment. And my brother confessed to me that he has been buying tobacco and alcohol form this store for many years. I was outside waiting in the parking lot. I had just bought groceries for them when they asked me to stop at the store. None of them have a job so they are flat broke. There are other circumstances that I choose not to divulge. Like I said they didn't pay for the groceries because they save their cards for beer and cigarettes. What are you suggesting Maggie?
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    There is no such thing as a "perfect" person. Even drug addicts seek out help and sometimes religion helps people a lot more than you would think. Just talking to someone who is an objective listener and isn't going to be judgmental can be a great relief to people who are suffering. Sometimes people don't walk to talk with their family members/friends because they don't want to burden them.
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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Here is the situation. My brother and his sons live in another state. My sister passed away this month from lung cancer. I traveled there for the funeral and to visit. When I got there i found my brother and two of his sons had not eaten for two days. So i went out and picked up some burgers. After they had eaten I took my brother and his sons in my rental car, none of them have a car, to buy groceries which I gladly paid for. On the way back they asked me to stop at a store so i did. They came out with beer and cigaretts. Well needless to say i was pissed. I asked, how can you afford beer and cigaretts but can't afford food. My brother responded "the store accepted his food stamp card for beer and smokes, isn't that cool" I said hell no its not cool. My brother and his adult sons are on food stamps. So what am I to do. Turn in my brother and his sons.
    I'd let it go and focus instead on greater injustices. This stuff is small time.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm support many additional restrictions. Starting with no soda and candy.
    I agree with this considering our obesity problem. Maybe they should just have "special" grocery stores for EBT purchases. If you could only buy your groceries at EBT-approved grocery stores which did not sell alcohol or tobacco or other such vices, candy, soda, whatever, then maybe that would make a difference.

    People would still be able to "trade" with their EBT cards though. There is no getting around that problem that I can see.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    I also think people with EBT cards shouldn't be able to get CASH using that card; they should only be able to use it to buy food.
    They only get cash via the (virtually official) 50 or 66% deal.

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    Re: Should I turn in my brother for food stamp fraud?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I agree with this considering our obesity problem. Maybe they should just have "special" grocery stores for EBT purchases. If you could only buy your groceries at EBT-approved grocery stores which did not sell alcohol or tobacco or other such vices, candy, soda, whatever, then maybe that would make a difference.

    People would still be able to "trade" with their EBT cards though. There is no getting around that problem that I can see.

    I'm good with non-taxable items only. No processed food, no drinks.

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