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Should marijuana be legal?

Legalize it?

  • Yes, recreational marijuana should be legal

    Votes: 63 85.1%
  • Only medicinal marijuana should be allowed

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • No, don't do it.

    Votes: 4 5.4%
  • Justin Bieber looks just like Miley Cyrus

    Votes: 4 5.4%

  • Total voters
    74
Encouraging poll results...even though I have little use for marijuana (makes me paranoidish).
 
The real question is: what gives the government the right to decide what you can and cant put into your own body?

Come to think of it, I don't believe that is one of the enumerated powers listed in the Constitution.
 
Without a compelling reason to prohibit it, everything should be legal. There is no such reason when it comes to drugs, especially marijuana.
 
I smoked it for years (old hippie dude), and quit a couple years ago -figured it was 'high time' to just give up that vice in that it was just a habit for myself.

But it does have medical properties ( the cannabinoids), and arrest is just a waste of society's resources. Some really new medical sprays would be helpful, so it doesn't have to be smoked.

Anyways, another ex. of "federalism" at work (Federalism is a system of government in which entities such as states or provinces share power with a national government)

-the states saw the need, and passed legal weed, eventually the fed's will catch up.
 
Yes, locking someone in a cage for owning a plant is absurd and has absolutely no place in a free society.
That's a really gross oversimplification of the issue.
 
The real question is: what gives the government the right to decide what you can and cant put into your own body?
Well...they do. They can make laws about what you can and can't put into your body.
 
Should State's rights making Marijuana legal, be legal?
When do folks want State's rights to be in play, when they like the law, or always, or never ?
 
That's actually verbatim what is happening. Are you claiming owning a plant will not get you locked in a cage?
"It's a plant, therefore people should not be arrested for owning it because it's plant" isn't sound logic and it isn't going to persuade the opposition.
 
"It's a plant, therefore people should not be arrested for owning it because it's plant" isn't sound logic and it isn't going to persuade the opposition.

For lovers of liberty like myself, and the 7 other people that liked that post, it is self evident that the government shouldn't be locking people in cages for a plant. Apparently for a statist like yourself, you think that's up for discussion. Would you like to tell me about the huge success prohibition has been?
 
For lovers of liberty like myself, and the 7 other people that liked that post, it is self evident that the government shouldn't be locking people in cages for a plant. Apparently for a statist like yourself, you think that's up for discussion. Would you like to tell me about the huge success prohibition has been?
Good for you and those seven people. I'm for marijuana legalization too, I'm just pointing out that your logic is unsound and it won't convince any "statist" to change their views.
 
Good for you and those seven people. I'm for marijuana legalization too, I'm just pointing out that your logic is unsound and it won't convince any "statist" to change their views.

I wasn't trying to convince anybody at the time, I was just stating my opinion. Thanks for jumping in and trying to snipe me though. You've really added value to this conversation.
 
I wasn't trying to convince anybody at the time, I was just stating my opinion. Thanks for jumping in and trying to snipe me though. You've really added value to this conversation.
Sorry for informing you that your justification for your opinion is just bloody awful.
 
All dope, legalize all of it.

I cant agree to that. Weed is pretty much harmless, other drugs like X and stuff should probably be legal too.

most drugs though ...
 
I just came back from Colorado, where recreational marijuana is legal. Would you like to see it in your state? Why or why not?

Do you have any research to share with us? :mrgreen:

I'm all for legalisation with various caveats

Only certain strains of the plant should be legalized, those most likely lead to psychosis banned, those with anti psychotic properties encouraged (Yes they do exist, google them)

>No importation from other countries

>No one with a criminal record for non drug related offences can be involved in the industry

>A strict (but free) licencing system should be put in place to enforce the above.

This means that consumption would occur in a manner more congruent to mental health, and that gangs/cartels can not compete with cheaper legal alternatives, hopefully leading to their being forced out of the business.
 
I just came back from Colorado, where recreational marijuana is legal. Would you like to see it in your state? Why or why not?

Sadly it is legal here in Washington and because of that accidents with people high on dope has increased considerably.
 
Sadly it is legal here in Washington and because of that accidents with people high on dope has increased considerably.

The same could be said about alcohol. Or perscription drugs.
 
Do you have any research to share with us? :mrgreen:

I'm all for legalisation with various caveats

Only certain strains of the plant should be legalized, those most likely lead to psychosis banned, those with anti psychotic properties encouraged (Yes they do exist, google them)

>No importation from other countries

>No one with a criminal record for non drug related offences can be involved in the industry

>A strict (but free) licencing system should be put in place to enforce the above.

This means that consumption would occur in a manner more congruent to mental health, and that gangs/cartels can not compete with cheaper legal alternatives, hopefully leading to their being forced out of the business.

The way it works in Colorado is that weed is only sold in certain licensed dispensaries (I believe there are 300 in the state). I visited one called Green Solutions. You stand in a line for a few minutes and they check your ID, and put you in their registry (no idea what that's for, but the legal age is 21). You're then greeted by a concierge who walks you through literally thousands of strains of cannabis, talking about the properties, THC content, CBD content, etc. When you've selected a strain, they walk you through the different forms they're sold in. They sell pre-rolled joints, just plain weed for you to put in your pipe, edibles (chocolates, brownies, cakes, etc), marijuana-infused beverages, hash oils, you name it.

The legal limits are different for medical marijuana card holders and for recreational users. For example, my friend is quadriplegic and has a medical marijuana license for pain management. Where I bought a chocolate bar with 80mg of THC, his had 400mg. Also, you are limited in the quantities you can buy, with medical users being allowed higher quantities.

Medical card holders are allowed to grow up to 6 plants in their own home, but are not allowed to sell what they grow. Recreational users cannot grow their own.
 
That's actually verbatim what is happening. Are you claiming owning a plant will not get you locked in a cage?

It's true, but opium and coca leaves are also plants.

Then again I say.... God made marijuana, so how can it possibly be bad? That would be like saying God made a mistake or something.
 
All dope, legalize all of it.

Marijuana isn't really dope. Dope is short for "dopamine," which is a brain chemical associated with rewards. Cocaine mimics dopamine, which is why some people call it "dope" for short.
 
The way it works in Colorado is that weed is only sold in certain licensed dispensaries (I believe there are 300 in the state). I visited one called Green Solutions. You stand in a line for a few minutes and they check your ID, and put you in their registry (no idea what that's for, but the legal age is 21). You're then greeted by a concierge who walks you through literally thousands of strains of cannabis, talking about the properties, THC content, CBD content, etc. When you've selected a strain, they walk you through the different forms they're sold in. They sell pre-rolled joints, just plain weed for you to put in your pipe, edibles (chocolates, brownies, cakes, etc), marijuana-infused beverages, hash oils, you name it.

The legal limits are different for medical marijuana card holders and for recreational users. For example, my friend is quadriplegic and has a medical marijuana license for pain management. Where I bought a chocolate bar with 80mg of THC, his had 400mg. Also, you are limited in the quantities you can buy, with medical users being allowed higher quantities.

Medical card holders are allowed to grow up to 6 plants in their own home, but are not allowed to sell what they grow. Recreational users cannot grow their own.

My serious pot-smoking days are behind me but...now and then....do you know if there are any cafes where you can smoke it socially? I went with my best friend to Amsterdam about 15 years ago and we met all sorts of interesting people who were amenable to conversation. If there are such things, I think I'll take a trip to CO this summer and recreate some.
 
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