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    Should German WWII vets be arrested?[W:260]

    Germany is STILL arresting WW2 vets because they were stationed at concentration camps.

    BBC News - Germany arrests three suspected Auschwitz guards

    Three men aged 88, 92 and 94 have been detained by German authorities on suspicion of being guards at the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz.

    The homes of a number of men were raided in three German states, months after prosecutors investigating Nazi-era war crimes announced they were recommending charges against 30 people.



    Is this fair? The youngest of the three would have been probably born in 1926, making him no older than 19 when the war ended. Additionally, it's not like these guys volunteered for the war, or even to be guards at Auschwitz. They were forced into it; almost every German male of military age was forced into fighting for the Third Reich. I don't think it's right for us to do this. It's ridiculous for a bunch of people lucky enough to be born in the post-war era to go back and persecute these people for things that happened 70 years ago, especially since these people couldn't have possibly hoped to stop anything. What would have happened if they refused to be guards at Auschwitz? They would have probably just been executed on the spot for refusing to obey orders.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    Germany is STILL arresting WW2 vets because they were stationed at concentration camps.

    BBC News - Germany arrests three suspected Auschwitz guards

    Three men aged 88, 92 and 94 have been detained by German authorities on suspicion of being guards at the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz.

    The homes of a number of men were raided in three German states, months after prosecutors investigating Nazi-era war crimes announced they were recommending charges against 30 people.



    Is this fair? The youngest of the three would have been probably born in 1926, making him no older than 19 when the war ended. Additionally, it's not like these guys volunteered for the war, or even to be guards at Auschwitz. They were forced into it; almost every German male of military age was forced into fighting for the Third Reich. I don't think it's right for us to do this. It's ridiculous for a bunch of people lucky enough to be born in the post-war era to go back and persecute these people for things that happened 70 years ago, especially since these people couldn't have possibly hoped to stop anything. What would have happened if they refused to be guards at Auschwitz? They would have probably just been executed on the spot for refusing to obey orders.
    I'm aware that most if not all concentration camp guards volunteered and were members of the SchutzStaffel, not ordinary German conscripts.
    That being said, they should have been brought to justice earlier. What use is putting those men who probably doesn't even remember their time as soldiers in prison?
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    If they committed a crime, bring them to justice.

    I don't care if they are 18 or 88. Whether they are healthy or dying of cancer.

    Justice is blind...as it should be.


    Why not ask any surviving victims if they want these people brought to trial or not? If they say 'no'...I am fine with that.

    But if they say 'yes'...prosecute them to the absolute full extent of the law.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    How can they be prosecuted if they were following a direct order from their commanding officer? Honestly, I understand that this was a horrible circumstance, but if these guys are brought to justice, in my opinion, anyway, it'd make more soldiers hesitant about signing up, if they can be prosecuted for following an order they were forced to do.
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    How can they be prosecuted if they were following a direct order from their commanding officer? Honestly, I understand that this was a horrible circumstance, but if these guys are brought to justice, in my opinion, anyway, it'd make more soldiers hesitant about signing up, if they can be prosecuted for following an order they were forced to do.
    The situation is different. In the present soldiers have ways to report illegal orders even though there may be retribution. Back then there was only death.
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Not to disrespect those that died, but I think we should let bygones be bygones
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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?



    Growing up in a society like that can do a lot to the mind of a young person, I think the time has passed to prosecute these guys not only because their advanced age but because their defense would obviously rest on saying if they failed to obey orders they'd be killed themselves and that growing up in that society they didn't have much hope to be normal folks. A prosecution would have an extremely hard time proving that was not the case, and these guys would likely die before the issue was settled.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    I've read that Mossad still keeps open files on fugitive Nazis. Dunno if it's true or not.

    I'm conflicted here. I do know that if Hitler himself had escaped and was found hiding out in the Amazon or whatever, his age wouldn't matter to the majority. He'd be extradited and lynched in Tel Aviv. Probably on live TV.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    Germany is STILL arresting WW2 vets because they were stationed at concentration camps.

    BBC News - Germany arrests three suspected Auschwitz guards

    Three men aged 88, 92 and 94 have been detained by German authorities on suspicion of being guards at the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz.

    The homes of a number of men were raided in three German states, months after prosecutors investigating Nazi-era war crimes announced they were recommending charges against 30 people.



    Is this fair? The youngest of the three would have been probably born in 1926, making him no older than 19 when the war ended. Additionally, it's not like these guys volunteered for the war, or even to be guards at Auschwitz. They were forced into it; almost every German male of military age was forced into fighting for the Third Reich. I don't think it's right for us to do this. It's ridiculous for a bunch of people lucky enough to be born in the post-war era to go back and persecute these people for things that happened 70 years ago, especially since these people couldn't have possibly hoped to stop anything. What would have happened if they refused to be guards at Auschwitz? They would have probably just been executed on the spot for refusing to obey orders.
    If a WWII German vet participated in atrocities it doesn't matter how old they were at the time.

    If they were just an average soldier fighting in the field, then no. They were serving their country honorably.

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    Re: Should German WWII vets be arrested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    If a WWII German vet participated in atrocities it doesn't matter how old they were at the time.

    If they were just an average soldier fighting in the field, then no. They were serving their country honorably.
    So who gets to decide who was an average soldier and who participated in atrocities? According to modern Germany, if you were stationed at a concentration camp then you are responsible for the atrocities. I don't believe all of the camp guards were volunteers, either, but there is little evidence I can find about this. I did find that a lot more than just the SS were stationed at the camps, though.

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